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Can we even afford these numbers? That $37 trillion debt worries me. We act like it's 1991.
1 posted on 08/21/2025 5:12:48 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
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To: whyilovetexas111

Ask Linda.


2 posted on 08/21/2025 5:14:42 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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1000 each...............


3 posted on 08/21/2025 5:16:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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1000 each...............


4 posted on 08/21/2025 5:16:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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> Can we even afford these numbers? <

That is a question that must be asked. A country can collapse by not having enough military power. A country can also collapse through reckless spending.

Fortunately, the adults are in charge now. My only worry is that Trump doesn’t seem to be too concerned about the deficit. Let’s hope he can find the right balance.


5 posted on 08/21/2025 5:23:47 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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We started out at 132 B2’s, then went to 75, and ended up with 21 (now 20). Then went on a war rampage that could easily end up including Ukraine.

One of the many reasons that I have nothing good to say about the Neocons is that they kill off our military (no different with navy vessels or army size)...then run around the world starting wars.


7 posted on 08/21/2025 5:27:33 AM PDT by BobL (If you're over 50 and still eat carbs, expect to become diabetic)
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“The U.S. risks losing its air superiority by 2030 if it fails to build its next-generation aircraft in sufficient numbers.”

This is something I believe that came out of the Eisenhower administration. It’s called a “gap” and it is fictional. The “nuclear” gap was just one of the things that neocons professed in order to keep building weapons systems. Every few years there is a “gap.”

China’s J20’s are probably the technology equivalent of the F-117. The J20 is a snack for the F22 Raptor.


8 posted on 08/21/2025 5:30:42 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (TDS much?)
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Is how we spend the money making these vehicles important in calculating the full cost to the economy? As in by buying from ourselves and paying our suppliers and workers rather than any foreign vendors for parts or machining? Can that nuance make a huge difference in the impact of cost?


10 posted on 08/21/2025 5:39:47 AM PDT by desertsolitaire (w)
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This question is especially pertinent inThe era of drones. Warfare has changed. As it always does between wars.


13 posted on 08/21/2025 5:55:18 AM PDT by circlecity
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It will be great to see these birds back in the air.


14 posted on 08/21/2025 6:13:58 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”)
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via DuckDuckGo:

https://payloadspace.com › underutilized-capacity-on-dedicated-customer-falcon-9-rides-payload-research

“Underutilized Capacity on Dedicated Customer Falcon 9 Rides: Payload ...
Jan 8, 2025
SpaceX has pushed up average payload mass for Falcon 9 Starlink-dedicated launches to roughly 16,850 kg, or 96% of max capacity of 17.5 tons to LEO in a reusable configuration, maximizing every meter and kilogram offered by the rocket.”

That’s about a Mother of All Bomb’s worth.

Musk will get his newest ‘baby’ to work.

As for the F-47, build a two-engine stealth airframe and use F-35 engines, avionics and cockpit design. Only the airframe need be a development item.


15 posted on 08/21/2025 6:32:31 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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National Security Journal

It should come complete with a centerfold for Lindsey Graham’s viewing pleasure.


17 posted on 08/21/2025 6:40:39 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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As for manned aircraft, Trump would like to have a no-fly zone over Ukraine apparently.

There’s a risk in doing that with a manned aircraft.


18 posted on 08/21/2025 6:43:33 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Key question from the article, “ These numbers are essential to absorb combat losses,”….

Underestimating the enemy’s strength and capabilities, which the West has discovered about Russia, leads to huge losses. Our days of WW2 war production is long gone. China is not Russia, they are the manufacturing king on the planet.

Unfortunately, we have no military advantage against an allied Russia and China. Best to ditch the whole idea. Concentrate on avoiding war, not making war.

Fighting an enemy 6-8,000 miles away is a fools game, as our history has shown us.


19 posted on 08/21/2025 6:45:46 AM PDT by delta7
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How about this? Let’s charge $.25 for every ad that is placed in news papers, TV, internet site, and smart phone. I’ll bet we will have enough money to build the first F-47 Fighter and B-21 Raider in a month.


22 posted on 08/21/2025 6:59:04 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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None, since every war game scenario shows China winning every time. /S


28 posted on 08/21/2025 7:11:17 AM PDT by shotgun
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Last war thinking. This is like announcing a new battleship program.


30 posted on 08/21/2025 7:20:02 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hivemind liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives select servants.)
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Wasn’t it Stalin that said, “Quantity has a quality all its own”?


36 posted on 08/21/2025 8:00:42 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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It is time we showed the world the immense capability of our subs. The USA is sick and tired of the war business. It is time to end war by declaring the enemy is terminated if our lines are crossed.


39 posted on 08/21/2025 9:01:42 AM PDT by Racketeer
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We need a minimum of 2000 of each...


41 posted on 08/21/2025 10:30:06 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rising Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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