Posted on 08/09/2025 10:50:29 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is once again rejecting any consideration for President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin to discuss terms for a ceasefire without his involvement.
On a Twitter storm Saturday, Zelenskyy rejected the thought of giving any Ukranian territory to Russia in exchange for peace. “The answer to the Ukrainian territorial question already is in the Constitution of Ukraine. No one will deviate from this—and no one will be able to. Ukrainians will not gift their land to the occupier,” Zelenskyy said.
President Trump announced that he would meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin on August 15, in Alaska.
Zelenskyy reacted, carrying the message from the global intelligence community who support the ongoing conflict, and does not like the idea of the USA and Russia determining the outcome for Ukraine.
Zelenskyy has banned opposition parties in Ukraine, taken control of media, targeted religious groups who he claims are subversive to his interests and cancelled elections in order to remain in power. Now Zelenskyy hides behind the claim of a constitution his regime modified in order to ensure he alone controls the pathways to peace.
(Via NBC) – A defiant Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy declared Saturday that his countrymen “will not give their land to occupiers,” after President Donald Trump suggested that a peace deal would include some “swapping” of territories with Russia.
“The answer to Ukraine’s territorial question is already in the constitution of Ukraine,” Zelenskyy said in a message on Telegram early Saturday. “No one will and no one can deviate from it. Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier.” (more)
It has been reported that Vladimir Putin’s ceasefire terms include Russia totally controlling the Donbas region.
WASHINGTON – […] Under the proposal being floated by the Trump administration, Russia would agree to a freeze of the war along the contact line in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, where Moscow controls less land than in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, a person familiar with the matter told POLITICO.
In return, Russia would be allowed to keep the Donbas, said the person, granted anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomacy, as others in this article.
U.S. special envoy Steve Witkoff returned from a meeting with Putin earlier this week and told Trump that the Russian president had presented the terms under which the Kremlin would agree to stop hostilities in Ukraine, a White House official told POLITICO.
The official declined to describe Russia’s terms, but Trump said land swaps between Russia and Ukraine are under discussion. (more)
President Trump does not view a meeting with Putin as a concession.
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Make him stand for election.
For the children and “our democracy”.....
Rejecting?
I don’t think Zidget was even invited.
If you aren’t at the table, you are on the menu.
Judging by the map, he’s already given up a lot of land and ii in the process of giving up more.
I’m not concerned about a Zelensky hissy fit.
I am concerned about Trump’s back and where Linda Graham is when Trump turns his back.
Not Zelensky’s call. He’s not the boss of Trump.
Mikey is way less than a sympathetic figure.
His best case scenario is he stays in power and accepts a “swap” of territory that he used to have for territory Putin doesn’t want. Sorta like when the schoolyard bully takes your dollar and then settles with you by giving you a quarter back.
Maybe Putin will want a piece of Alaska instead of Ukraine to end the war.
““The answer to Ukraine’s territorial question is already in the constitution of Ukraine,”
This says there has to be regime change in either Ukraine or Russia.
Start packing your bags buddy.
LOL!! That’s basically the same thing Allen Dulles (brother of John Foster Dulles) said when he became the 5th Director of the CIA in 1953. He’d already been Director of the OSS during WWII, briefly Deputy Director of Central Intelligence for Plans, and the 4th Deputy Director the CIA. Nice to see that the CIA hasn’t changed since it began.
Zelenskyy does NOT want peace, he never did, he wants MONEY, MONEY to continue funding his rich lifestyle
Zelensky is trying to blow up the meeting with Putin next week.
Just like he tried to blow up the meeting with Trump at the White House.
We shall see what comes out of the meeting with Putin next week.
Hopefully Peace.
Tell Zelensky that “he who pays the piper calls the tune”. Ukraine is on its last legs and can’t do anything without the US providing military support. If he doesn’t shut up he’s likely to be assassinated (which is fine by me).
Look, you don't have the cards. Any your hand is getting weaker every day.
History teaches that sometimes you have to know when to fold em, even if a principle of never giving an inch is violated. I am not one to take satisfaction from this, but I always believed that Crimea should go back to the Russian federation on historical grounds. As to what Putin can take away in eastern Ukraine, at some point the government in Kyiv has to accept that they are losing too much to keep up the appearances of defending it. It sucks but the situation for all of Ukraine sucks more, just one of those nasty facts of real world politics. If we were to think otherwise and believe very strongly that the territorial integrity of Ukraine (as they view it) is a very important principle, then we should intervene and not just maintain this status quo. I can’t see that the territorial integrity of Ukraine is more important than lack of a global nuclear war. But it’s easy for us outside the conflict to set terms and conditions. If the people of Ukraine want to fight to the last man standing that in some ways is admirable, but is it in anyone’s interest to do so?
If Putin is finally willing to come to the table and agree to specific terms for a ceasefire and Zelensky rejects it out of hand, Trump’s message should be simple - “Ukraine is free to continue fighting if they so choose, but they’ll do it without our military equipment and support”. Trump would then need to pressure the EU into following suit. At some point, Zelensky would have no choice but to cave.
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