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Trump’s Former Impeachment Lawyer David Schoen Flips the Script: Uses Democrats’ Own Argument to Prove Obama Can Still Be Impeached, Stripped of Immunity, and Indicted for His Crimes
Gateway Pundit ^ | July 29, 2025 | Jim Hᴏft

Posted on 07/29/2025 8:35:40 AM PDT by Red Badger

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1 posted on 07/29/2025 8:35:40 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

They did it to themselves! Bet they didn’t think he’d ever get a chance to flip the scales on them!


2 posted on 07/29/2025 8:40:39 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Red Badger

Bkmk


3 posted on 07/29/2025 8:43:12 AM PDT by sauropod (Make sure Satan has to climb over a lot of Scripture to get to you. John MacArthur Ne supra crepidam)
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To: Flaming Conservative

I bet Obama wishes that he hadn’t engineered Biden off the 2024 ticket and installed Harris. Their whole plan was sabotaged by this.


4 posted on 07/29/2025 8:44:07 AM PDT by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Red Badger

Nice technical point, but they still don’t have 67 Senate votes.


5 posted on 07/29/2025 8:53:21 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: Red Badger

Yes, well, when the prospect of Obama being impeached and convicted becomes more than an acid trip, maybe I’ll pay attention.


6 posted on 07/29/2025 8:54:13 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Red Badger

Impeachment of Obama is a collosal waste of time and effort. He is guilty, as a private citizen now, of having attempted a coup. Prosecute him on that... in our dreams, at least.


7 posted on 07/29/2025 8:55:20 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: Red Badger
THIS will NEVER Happen!!!

DEMOCRATS ARE LAW-LESS BECAUSE REPUBLICANS ARE BALL-LESS!!!!

WAKE UP PUBBIES!! YOU WILL LOSE IF YOU DON"T START MOVING TRUMP'S AGANDA!!

8 posted on 07/29/2025 8:55:47 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: alancarp

They don’t need 67 votes.

Just a two-thirds majority of the members PRESENT is required for conviction.

So, if several Democrats are in jail at the time..............................


9 posted on 07/29/2025 8:56:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Republicans will not impeach.


10 posted on 07/29/2025 8:57:10 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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11 posted on 07/29/2025 9:03:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of racism, anger, hate and violence.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

All it takes is an Attorney General with stones.


12 posted on 07/29/2025 9:04:29 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: Red Badger

Well, Trump vs United States shot to Hell the Democrats’ arguments for criminally prosecuting the president... or did it?

Wikipedia reasonably well summarizes the ruling:

“Trump v. United States, 603 U.S. 593 (2024), is a landmark decision[1][2] of the Supreme Court of the United States in which the Court determined that presidential immunity from criminal prosecution presumptively extends to all of a president’s “official acts” – with absolute immunity for official acts within an exclusive presidential authority that Congress cannot regulate[1][2] such as the pardon, command of the military, execution of laws, or control of the executive branch.”

The catch is Obama sought to control the executive branch’s actions taken AFTER he left office. OK, it’s threading a needle because Obama did it while he was still in office, but I believe it’s relevant that he sought to control the actions of people like FBI director James Comey and CIA director John Brennan that they would make after he left office, not only through continuing policies until they were changed, but in maintaining fealty even after they were responsible to another administration.


13 posted on 07/29/2025 9:04:47 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Red Badger

BTTT


14 posted on 07/29/2025 9:06:20 AM PDT by nopardons
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Another way to look at it is that SCOTUS intended to immunize OFFICIAL ACTS, which they defined as including control of the executive branch and execution of laws. But when Obama sought to maintain control of the executive branch after he left office those acts were unofficial, even though they otherwise fit the description of acts which were official.

Now, you may suppose that passing a policy on your way out the door is attempting to control the future acts of the executive branch, but the issuance of that policy is a present act. In that sense, the executive branch isn’t taking new action, but merely continuing an action what had already been started during the incumbent administration, until such time as the incoming administration undoes that action. (The fact that its inherently difficult is why the Administrative Policies Act creates some Constitutional problems, but the creation of those problems is an action of Congress, and therefore doesn’t make the President’s actions unofficial.)


15 posted on 07/29/2025 9:14:27 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Red Badger; All

The Trump legal team includes many brilliant people, and I would never presume I just came up with an angle they wouldn’t’ve, but JUST IN CASE, anyone know how to put under their nose this way around the Supreme Court’s finding of Presidential immunity?


16 posted on 07/29/2025 9:17:27 AM PDT by dangus
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Couldn’t Trump file a civil lawsuit ? Like the lawsuit against CBS ??

Barry would have to testify under oath.


17 posted on 07/29/2025 9:18:47 AM PDT by RightWingNut
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To: Red Badger

It looks like Trump is on the way to a solid win in 2026. Republicans could add to their majorities in the house and senate. They could get very close to having enough votes to impeaching Obama. Meanwhile Brennan, Comey, Hillary, et.al, stand trial for conspiracy to overthrow the president. That would be 7x24 fun.


18 posted on 07/29/2025 9:20:23 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Ding, Ding, Ding, winner, winner, chicken dinner.

as a flower child of the 1960's and having done a lot of acid trips in my time, you should know ONLY BECAUSE of those experiences, that ACTUALLY SAVED MY like, back mid 1980's when I was getting certified for deep scuba diving.

scuba diver / diving and Nitrogen Narcosis.

I was down to a depth of approx. 125 feet, and got "NARCED," (nitrogen narcosis.) as fast as you can say the word BOO or as fast as you could turn on a light switch, that's how it hit me, and only because of my acid trips, am I here today. Figured I share for what it's worth.

19 posted on 07/29/2025 9:21:24 AM PDT by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's lie, only while testifying, as taught in their respected Police Academy(s). )
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To: dangus

Organizing and directing, while in office, the subversion of your successor is hardly within the penumbra of “official acts”.

No immunity. Arrest. Prosecute. Jail.


20 posted on 07/29/2025 9:44:37 AM PDT by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting here you're aiming!))
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