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To: whyilovetexas111
Ukraine joining NATO would be viewed by Russia as an existential threat, ...

False premise right off the bat. How exactly does Ukraine joining NATO threaten the existence of Russia? The only thing it threatens is Russia's desire to rebuild its historical empire by dominating Ukraine and who knows what other ambition.

6 posted on 07/09/2025 10:39:33 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Locomotive Breath

Here’s how I know NATO is no offensive threat to Russia.

NATO could totally kick Russia’s butt right now and doesn’t do it.

Russia can’t even beat Ukraine after 3 years and it’s bogged down there.

NATO could easily defeat Russia IF it wanted to and doesn’t need a battered Ukraine to do it.

Or NATO could just go into Ukraine and do it there.

Instead NATO is busy building defenses against a RUSSIAN attack on the Baltic states.

Of course this is a conventional war discussion. NATO also won’t attack Russia because of the nuclear deterrent.

The only one who got Russia invaded in this war is Russia - twice.


11 posted on 07/09/2025 11:03:27 AM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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To: Locomotive Breath
The only thing it threatens is Russia's desire to rebuild its historical empire by dominating Ukraine and who knows what other ambition.

Bingo. That has always been the "NATO" issue. Not a Russian fear of being attacked, but a "fear" that it would not longer be able to attack its neighbor.

14 posted on 07/09/2025 11:09:28 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Locomotive Breath

“How exactly does Ukraine joining NATO threaten the existence of Russia?”

Because it borders Russia. And Putin and the Russians are the ones to consider when they think they are being threatened.


25 posted on 07/09/2025 12:54:32 PM PDT by odawg
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