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I can see AOC doing this if she wins in 2028.
1 posted on 07/09/2025 10:21:30 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
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Then make a deal for no NATO in exchange for Russia leaving Ukraine. Take away Ukraine’s need and desire to join NATO.


2 posted on 07/09/2025 10:30:39 AM PDT by Petrosius
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NATO’s eastward expansion

Funny how those former "Soviet Socialist Republics" and Soviet satellite countries wanted to get as far away (politically) as possible from Russia when given the opportunity.

Decades of corruption and oppression have consequences, comrade. People don't like you, comrade, because you spent decades crapping on them.

Put very simply: Russia doesn't have the right to whine and moan about "NATO's eastward expansion". Russia CAUSED "NATO's eastward expansion".

4 posted on 07/09/2025 10:35:51 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Ukraine joining NATO would be viewed by Russia as an existential threat, ...

False premise right off the bat. How exactly does Ukraine joining NATO threaten the existence of Russia? The only thing it threatens is Russia's desire to rebuild its historical empire by dominating Ukraine and who knows what other ambition.

6 posted on 07/09/2025 10:39:33 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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Total nonsense but noone is putting Ukraine in NATO.

Russia’s claims of being threatened are total bs.


8 posted on 07/09/2025 10:57:17 AM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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Is this a high school term paper? Or just AI clickbait? Hard to tell.

Russia is barely holding onto the territory it seized in Ukraine and if it keeps up the current pace of losses it may find China reclaiming, under the same revanchist philosophy as Putin, it’s lost territory that Russia is holding.

If Russia is able to make war on NATO and succeed they would do so. Or at a minimum they would finish the job with Ukraine. But they can’t so they won’t but maybe bluster will cause the NATO to go wobbly.

Consequences! Dire! WW3! Russian tsunami torpedoes! Nth gen aircraft. Hypersonic missiles! Wham! Pow! The west is in for some this time.


9 posted on 07/09/2025 11:00:06 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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Russia already assumes that the EU and US intend to eventually bring Ukraine into NATO

We can assume EU/Brussels/London will actually speed the process of admission, as/when Ukraine collapses. They will never give up that bargaining position, narrative or pretend legal right.

They will create some fraudulent government in exile in London, and pretend they are part of NATO.

As for Russia, its there view that now there will be no “Ukraine Government” left to join NATO


13 posted on 07/09/2025 11:09:05 AM PDT by PGR88
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Ukraine won't join NATO until the war is over. The war won't be over while Putin is President of Russia. Putin will remain its President until Russia loses the war.

All of those things might happen this year, most likely around November-December.

15 posted on 07/09/2025 11:13:09 AM PDT by Thud
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Allowing Ukraine in NATO would be an act of insanity.


16 posted on 07/09/2025 11:16:30 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us )
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To: whyilovetexas111; Pittman; Navy Patriot

It is clinton, the enemy of the Serbs, who began NATO’s eastward expansion!

Ukraine must accept losses of its territory! And no more NATO!


19 posted on 07/09/2025 11:45:54 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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There are certain things Russian will want in exchange for ending offensive operations in Ukraine.

The certain things [Ukrainian neutrality, no NATO membership for Ukraine, Russia to get its assets back (over time), etc.] can be offered up, or not.

If not, Russian forces will eventually get to Odessa.


22 posted on 07/09/2025 12:31:38 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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