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Turning Libya into a failed state, a launching point for terrorists, and also an embarkation point for millions of refugees into Europe. Not to mention September 11th, 2012.

1 posted on 06/22/2025 2:25:42 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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Obama never even bothered to formally report the action to Congress, as required under the War Powers Act, with the lame excuse that he ordered the strikes to support the action led by NATO. At the time, Harold Koh argued that the War Powers Act didn’t apply because of the limited nature of the conflict — which had been going on for three months at that point — and the administration’s interpretation of the word “hostilities” in the act. As long as US ground troops weren’t involved, Koh argued, the president had full authority and no responsibility to notify Congress at all, Koh argued.
2 posted on 06/22/2025 2:28:32 PM PDT by Rummyfan ( In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.👨 )
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The Three Stooges. But at least Moe, Larry, and Curly provided entertainment value.


3 posted on 06/22/2025 2:29:08 PM PDT by Rummyfan ( In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.👨 )
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Oh Gawd, they are beyond parody.

4 posted on 06/22/2025 2:31:41 PM PDT by Rummyfan ( In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.👨 )
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In eight days, the United States and Israel eliminated Iran’s nuclear capabilities with minimal civilian casualties. One of the greatest military achievements ever.
5 posted on 06/22/2025 2:33:15 PM PDT by Rummyfan ( In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.👨 )
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They destroyed Libya for what?

Obama ordered it for what? Because BP oil well contracts were up with Libya. Because. Obama needed Russian style military arms for his private Islamic army in the Middle East—-aka—-ISIS. Libya was no risk to the US. They ended all nuclear ambitions, disposed of chemical weapons, and were advocating the same for other Arab states.

You betcha the Democrats cheered that on! What a disaster it has been since! Don’t worry, no US ambassadors will be killed dealing enriched U-235 to Islamic terrorist groups out of Iran. Oops, or was that just supposed to be captured and traded for Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, and those damn seals got in the way of Obama’s deal?

Oh well, “What difference does it make anyway” if hypocrisy rolls from the TDS democrats.


6 posted on 06/22/2025 2:36:31 PM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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8 posted on 06/22/2025 2:37:16 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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“We have met the enemy and he is US!(DEMOCRATS!)”—POGO.


9 posted on 06/22/2025 2:39:46 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( )
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Here is how the War Power of the United States is used correctly:

"The state of war between the United States and the Imperial Government of Japan which has thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally declared; and the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the Government to carry on war against the Imperial Government of Japan; and, to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States".

I say this is correct because 1) Success in war involves both the States (Senate) and the People (House); and 2) If Congress does not both DECLARE and PLEDGE, then as soon as the going gets tough, as war tends to do, Senators and Congressthings head for the exits.

Now, I don't say that failure to use the "authorized AND DIRECTED" language is why, since 1945, we always lose wars whereas prior to 1945 we never did, but at least, fellow FReepers, please think about what I said.

And, yes, when SLBMs are rising out of the Atlantic Ocean and are 7 minutes away, I am aware that the Commander in Chief of the Army and the Navy has authority to issue necessary orders, but to go from there to sending 580,000 soldiers and Marines halfway around the world to bleed for ten years without proper Constitutional authority - that's a long journey into unconstitutional action.

And, if anyone wants to respond by citing the "war powers act", don't bother. I'm a hardcore non-delegation guy and if the President can act as Presidents have recently, I don't see why we need a Congress at all.

20 posted on 06/22/2025 4:26:29 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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Sorry, one more thing: The fact that the Democrats love exercising unconstitutional power and are hypocrites about it to boot means exactly what?

Either the Constitution is in force and we support it or it is obsolete and we should disregard it.

What “Obama” did, or Clinton did, is beside the point.


21 posted on 06/22/2025 4:29:40 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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