Posted on 04/29/2025 8:39:46 PM PDT by Red Badger
I want to see a clearer explanation of why active duty military personnel are referred to as rogue federal agents. To me, a rouge federal agent would be someone presently employed as FBI, CIA, DHS, or some other Federal agency.
Cover stores, misdirection, smoke screening. LIkely that group was surveilled for a long time by all the right people for that number of cops to pull a surprise raid without anybody getting shot.
Urine test every one of them.
Underground is confusing to me. Especially in Colorado. Did they convert a gold mine? Is it a cave? A building dug into the ground? A basement of a large building?
You touched on another great point! The group was under surveillance for a long time, and when the raid came, they were not tipped off!
Underground in this context means ‘Not licensed’, illegal, Secret known to only a few, not physically under the ground......
Seriously - you did not know that the term “underground” referred to the club being illegal?
The Feds have their own gangbangers. The U.S. Government is made up of a lot of nasty Nazi gangbangers and they are not MAGAS. They are RATS. Joe Pedo embedded thousands of them in the government to “resist and obstruct” Trump before the maggot got thrown out for being crazy. Now the left is a bunch of “F” bomb dropping, Molotov throwing, illegal alien trafficking ACME “Coyotes” smuggling deported criminals back into America.
I bet the title used ‘rogue federal agents’ just to get clicks. I was expecting some DEA double agents, not local soldiers.
It was actually underground.
That’s how these type places got their name, usually in dark, unused storage places from previous centuries.
Prohibition era ‘Speakeasys’, French Anti-Nazi resistance fighters, Alternate Rock music clubs of the 60’s and 70’s, Actual band name Velvet Underground...........
I’m confused now.
Are they really rogue agents and thus traitors, or were they part of a very sophisticated surveillance program and had to act the part by appearing to work against the agents to protect their lives from retaliation by the cartels?
Is the dept providing cover for them and and a way to excuse them from blame by assigning guilt to them of being traitors?
I could not find a clear explanation in the article either about "rogue federal agents." All I found was references to active duty military and ARMY CID. If there were in fact rogue federal agents I would think they would be members of the Border Patrol. And how could such a raid be successful if there were people there who could have tipped off the others of the pending raid? Or, were there in fact deep cover agents who appeared to be rogue agents and as Metmom is suggesting, their identities are never going to be revealed?
I think they were Moonlighting as a professional security service. And that the action was a conflict of interest so it was deemed as “Rogue”.
From the DoD:
This page covers the rules affecting outside activities, such as working (or “moonlighting”), teaching, writing, and speaking by active duty and civilian DoD personnel.
The general rule for outside activities is permissive: Executive branch employees, subject to some limitations, are allowed to participate in outside activities. An employee may not have outside employment or be involved in outside activity that conflicts with the official duties of the employees position.
An activity conflicts with official duties —
if it is prohibited by statute or by the regulations of the employee’s agency, or
if the activity would require the employee to be disqualified from matters so central to the performance of the employee’s official duties as to materially impair the employee’s ability to carry out those duties.
“Outside activity” guidance includes the following requirements for permissible outside employment, speaking teaching and writing, and other specific activities.
DoD personnel may engage in outside employment or be self-employed outside the work place so long as there is:
No interference with official duties. Generally, you cannot be on both sides of a matter.
Interference Generally. A DoD employee may not engage in outside activities that interfere with his performance of military duties, are prohibited by statute or regulation, or would require the employee’s disqualification from matters critical to the office.
Security and Agency Specific Requirements. Agencies may require employees to seek approval for outside employment and may prohibit such activities if they will detract from readiness or pose a security risk. Check with your command or agency ethics official.
Financial Disclosure Filers. Within DoD, financial disclosure filers must obtain prior written approval from their supervisor before working for a prohibited source. Permission shall be granted unless the outside activity involves conduct prohibited by statute or regulation.
No representing to the Federal Government. Note - these are criminal provisions. Employees may not act as agent or attorney for anyone before any agency of the Government on any matter in which the United States is a party or has a direct and substantial interest. See 18 U.S.C. § 205. Other than in the performance of official duties, employees may not receive compensation for representational services rendered either personally or by another . See 18 U.S.C. § 203. Further, the criminal conflict of interest statute bars any employee from participating personally and substantially in an official capacity in any particular Government matter that would have a direct and predictable effect on his own (or imputed) financial interests.
No Appearance of Impropriety. In addition to the limitations described above, Federal employees are prohibited from taking positions when to do so would create an improper appearance of a conflict of interest with his or her federal employment.
https://dodsoco.ogc.osd.mil/DoD-Personnel/Ethics-Topics-for-DoD-Personnel/Outside-Activities/
Thank you. I was at a loss of words to explain a vernacular term to anyone who reads FR on a regular basis.
For something as large as this to go on the local LE was also involved. You can’t get away with this large of an operation without someone on the outside of it knowing.
I want to see a clearer explanation
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Click bait words
Anyone old enough is well familiar with the term.
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