Posted on 04/20/2025 8:10:13 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
I listened to the whole thing. Lang referred to the black culture that caused Austin’s death. Metcalf responded by saying that Lang was part of the problem because he was not trying to bridge the gap.
To be truthful, I think they were both jumping to conclusions about the other, just like I did about both of them before listening to the whole exchange.
I think Metcalf isn’t distinguishing between the Black race and the “Black culture” that Lang is calling out, that created the mindset that got Austin killed. Until I heard Lang using the term “Black culture” I didn’t realize that he was distinguishing between the two things. And the difference is huge, because if it is just Blacks against whites, there’s nothing that can fix that except one side killing all the others and taking over. And I think that’s what Metcalf thought Lang was talking about. That’s what the term “white nationalist” implies, and that is the title the media has given Lang.
But if it is about the “Black culture” - or maybe Metcalf could hear it better if the words used were “thug culture”, then there is a solution. The solution, then, is to rescue all the people who are caught in that culture - and in the meantime to protect those outside of it who are victimized by that culture.
Metcalf is probably not blaming Blacks or racism for Austin’s death. But the guy is going through Hell right now. He’s lost everything. He’s lived in a community where there is not racial tension and now suddenly his world is without his son and he’s seeing just how ugly the world is. The guy is reeling. And somebody is on the phone wanting to use his son’s memory and image as a rallying call for something the media calls white supremacy. He’s been raked over the coals for forgiving his son’s killer because of how the public views it when to him it was probably a personal choice to spend his last moments before burying his son dwelling on love rather than anger, and hoping to facilitate peace rather than foment anger. For that, he’s been called a lapdog and worse.
In psychology there is a thing of forgiving too soon, which is a method of denial or avoidance. Just say everything is OK so you don’t have to think about how badly you really have been hurt. The problem is when you never get out of that denial, or when your blowing off the enormity of the loss becomes an excuse for others to not take the root issues seriously. That is what others are reacting to - that he is saying publicly things that seem to excuse what really happened. That hasn’t helped our nation to confront the reality of thug culture and its damage. So I understand that, and to be truthful I was taken aback by his initial comments too. But I think at that point he was reeling so badly and said what he had to just to get through. He knows the enormity of what he lost. His whole world was shaken.
If anybody has never experienced the loss of a child they have no business telling a parent how they should react. Period. Everybody needs to back off and give him time to come to terms with what has happened. Who knows what his worldview was before this happened, but I can guarantee you that it is shaken. His whole world is shaken. He’s going to say and think worse things than the “f” word in the next few years, and he is going to be thanking God if/when he comes out on the other side able to think straight at all. He can count himself among the fortunate if he comes out of it with his marriage intact; most families don’t after the loss of a child. He has to hold himself together for the son who has to carry on missing what feels like half of his soul, and as he sets out to decide what to do with his life. The weight on this man’s shoulders is almost more than one person can bear. We have no business placing the weight of the rest of the world on his shoulders right now too.
I suspect that if he was given time and heard Lang speaking against thug culture and how it traps people inside it and harms those outside it, there would have been a different response. He can see first-hand how the thug culture is trying to profit, to lie about facts, and to forget the loss of life. He sees that. Unfortunately, he is now also seeing that the “other side” seems to be attacking people, not the ideas or cultural elements that turn people into monsters.
I don’t know how this is all going to end. If the trial ends up in Dallas there will be no justice because there only needs to be one juror who either swallows the snake-oil the child-shaking swindler is selling or fears his/her neighborhood being burned down if there’s not an acquittal. And as long as our cities are that way, how are we ever going to keep from becoming South Africa? If the welfare queens keep pumping out Blacks who subscribe to thug culture, the prospects are not good. My son has kept me informed about statistics and about history. I know we are fighting an uphill battle. I understand and feel the anger and fear.
Yesterday as I thought about Jesus on the cross I couldn’t help but ask, “Why does He love us so much?” Every day I have to remind myself of who He says I am, in spite of what I can see of myself. I’m reminded of the bumper sticker that says, “I want to be the person my dog thinks I am.” Every day I want to be the person my God thinks I am. And He’s promised that as He becomes bigger and closer to me, I will eventually become more like Him, and in Heaven I will be like Him because I will be able to see all of Him, all of Who He is.
If God ever told me that I could never be anything except what I see, I would die. His miracle of believing in me is my very life.
Many Black kids are in a struggle for their very lives, and it’s between the Voice of Truth and the voice of the giant and the waves that tell us we can never be anything. Whose image will these kids’ lives be fashioned after? P. Diddy? many don’t have a dad so they can’t understand love coming from One who calls Himself “Father”.
I think that’s the gap that Metcalf sees not being bridged. We absolutely need to fight for real justice and protection for the innocent. We need to stand for the sanctity of human life and for justice (both of which center on the issue of truth) - which are what have kept us from becoming like any third-world hell-hole. In their minds, a lot of these kids already are living in a third-world hellhole because that’s what their mind is made up of right now. The only way to change them is to change their minds.
“At the right time, while we were still helpless, Christ died for the ungodly.” We need to fight for justice, and we also need to fight for the lives of these kids being raised in third-world hellholes right here in America.
“The only way to change them is to change their minds.”
Leftists run the cities where most blacks live.
Leftist teachers are teaching young black people to hate white people in those cities.
“Changing the culture” is a century away—if we do everything perfectly—and to be blunt I am not totally convinced it would work even then.
He was killed because Anthony Karmello believes that Black guys have to be murderous thugs or else they are being “disrespected”.
I disagree.
You're half right. But only half right.
Blacks are the most racist race in America. Karmello might be a thug, but he almost certainly hates whites.
If a black man has a 10% chance of being stabbed by Karmello, a white man has a 20% chance of being stabbed.
If Karmello is about to explode and everyone around him is black, he'll shoot a black man. But if there's one white man in the crowd, he'll shoot the white. That white skin will act as a lightning rod.
You get what I'm saying? Black thugs take greater pleasure in attacking whites (or Asians or Jews, or even Latinos).
When a black thug strikes an Orthodox Jew, nobody says "This had nothing to do with being Jewish." Nobody calls the Jewish community "race hustlers" for injecting "anti-Semitism" into the discussion.
But when a black thug strikes a white, we're supposed to dutifully say, "This had nothing to do with race."
Well, I think it did. When a black thug strikes a Jew, or a white, or an Asian, there is a hatred of The Other involved. But if not in one case, then not in any of the cases.
The giant’s calling out my name and he laughs at me, reminding me of all the times I’ve tried before and failed. The giant keeps on telling me time and time again, “Boy, you’ll never win. You’ll never win!”
But the Voice of Truth tells me a different story. The Voice of Truth says, “Do not be afraid.” The Voice of Truth says, “This is for my glory.” Out of all the voices calling out to me, I will choose to listen and believe the Voice of Truth. (Mercy Me, “The Voice of Truth”)
I’ve been reading in Exodus. God hardened the heart of Pharaoh many times, because He wanted His people to see just how big He is and what He can do. He wanted them to have stories so big they would never forget. He had Gideon reduce the size of his army so that the Israelites would know that no how matter how outmatched they were they had more than enough to achieve victory as long as they had Him.
God has promised that if His people would repent and turn from their wicked ways, He would forgive and heal their land.
You mention the leftists, but they are not what is keeping this country from being healed. God has promised this land will be healed, but He’s still waiting for the one thing that has to happen first.
I am glad you are talking about miracles—because that is probably all that is going to get this done.
I see what you’re saying and I think you’ve probably accurately described Black/thug culture.
But that culture is not because the holder of it is Black, or Jewish, Latino, or anything else. It is because they are a thug who either hates somebody else, or wants something that’s not his, or believes he is entitled to kill anybody who makes him doubt his own manhood.
That person is diseased in the mind, and it kills them and everybody around them.
There are a lot of Blacks who are diseased in the mind in that way. There are also a lot of Blacks who are not diseased in the mind in that way. From a scientific perspective that means that being Black is not the cause of the disease. But there are more Blacks who have that disease than in other races. So there is correlation between the thug mentality and being Black.
So what is it that causes it? That is the discussion this nation really needs to have. With each “side” keeping the other honest. One of the most fascinating discussions I heard was Candace Owens and a “Black activist” debating in a group of Blacks moderated by a Black man who insisted that the crowd “Let the sister speak”. When she talked about the issue of fatherlessness in the Black community the place got so quiet you could hear a pin drop. And the heads all started nodding agreement. I thought, man, this is a conversation that needs to happen. Blacks talking to Blacks about the truth. And then I thought we need whites talking to whites too, because there are probably a lot of things we could be doing better. And whites need to talk to whites too. I think that’s what Metcalf wants to see happen.
I actually believe that rap musicians are initially raped on video by their producers before signing a record deal so that the record label can tell them what they have to sing. And I’ve heard about a letter written by someone involved in the recording business who was present at a meeting where the record label executives told this select group (sworn to secrecy) that they had bought shares in private prisons which by contract have to maintain a high occupancy rate, so the label was forcing their rap artists to produce music glorifying violence and crime so that the Black culture would create lots of prisoners to keep the owners’ coffers filled. Rich white bastards living off the backs of broken lives.
Another poster mentioned leftist teachers. When Bill Ayers and Barack Obama headed the Annanberg Challenge in Chicago they spent all that money training teachers in Sub-Saharan Supremacy so that the teachers could teach the kids that whites are their inferior enemies and teach them how to resist anything white. Didn’t help them learn math so they could get a good job. Basically created a thug culture - and used lots of white money to do it. And what they did was covered up by a lot of white media heads who refused to let anybody tell the truth about it.
There is a LOT to discuss. We just need to do it. And Blacks need to see whites having the discussions we need. And whites need to see Blacks having the discussions they need.
Getting rid of DEI is a start. Getting rid of Critical Race Theory is a start. Firing people who want to push both those things is a start.
We just gotta keep going.
I agree. Every day I pray for a miracle, because God is the only One who can get us out of the messes we’ve created - both as individuals and as a society.
Usually He lets His people get to the very bottom and hopeless, and then He shows them that He is bigger than any enemy we face.
And today we remember that even death couldn’t hold Him down.
Sounds like you’re the type that supports so-called “hate crime” laws as opposed to blind justice, which is how it was supposed to be in America before the liberals corrupted the justice system. Sickens me to hear all the victimhood and parroting of the language of the left in this thread. Just reaffirms for me why I’ve opposed the whole “hate crime” scam since its’ inception…
Most of all, I support "equality before the law."
I oppose hate crime laws. Especially hate speech laws. I always said so.
But if we do have hate crime laws, I want them enforced equally.
Worse than hate crime laws are one-sided hate crime laws.
You think hate crime laws oppose "blind justice"? How much more so do one-sided hate crimes laws oppose blind justice.
If non-whites want hate crime laws (and polls show that they do), then -- until hate crime laws are abolished for everyone, we should demand the same protection.
There is a kind of "principled conservatism" which is really a form of surrender. Much like "principled libertarians" who would rather lose than compromise their principles.
Stop it with the capital black nonsense.
OK, all black, jewish, latino, white. scandinavian, english, irish, you name it.
As you wish, hidek6.
I agree with everything you said there.
I’ve been very supportive of Jake Lang while he was imprisoned and even when he was agitating at a couple of events post-release, (CPAC comes to mind) but this time, I think he’s acting like a bit of an ass.
Right now, "protected classes" have no incentive to oppose hate crime laws, because it rarely applies them (only when it's one "protected class" against another).
But treat non-whites equally, hit them with hate crime charges every time they attack a white, and watch them turn against hate crime laws.
I’m starting to realize why he’s divorced
I have serious doubts about these “J6 insurrectionists” coming out with extremist positions.
I seem to recall recently reading about a “white nationalist” teen killing his parents to raise money to finance his attempt on Trump.
STFU. You sound like a liberal living in fear.
You sound like an internet tough guy addicted to alcohol and viagra....LOL!
And a possible storm front member or fan.
Yep
A lot of the most vile comments coming from posters with signup dates in the last two or three years.
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