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A Couple of Questions Regarding "The Reality Of Tariffs" -
4/11/2025 | self

Posted on 04/11/2025 7:35:59 AM PDT by ma_che62

1. The headlines from the past couple of weeks have been Trump's war on tariffs and the "reciprocal" tariffs strategy he has come up with. Yes, I'm over simplifying what he's doing; I simply want to frame a couple of simple questions. First, does anyone know where I can find a schedule, chart, and/or website that details the tariffs that residents in foreign countries ACTUALLY pay for American goods they purchase? Example, Trump is imposing tariffs of 46% and 49% on Vietnamese and Cambodian goods imported into the U.S. while the people of those countries do not pay tariffs that high when they purchase American products. Yes, yes, I know what Trump is doing and I support it...he wants to bring these countries to the bargaining table so he's starting with astronomical tariff rates.

I'm simply curious what the ACTUAL rates of tariffs are on U.S. goods sold in foreign countries.

2. Secondly, does anyone have any idea what are considered "U.S. products" that are subjected to foreign tariffs? For example, for decades now we actually do not manufacture a lot of products; if an Italian buys an iPhone (which are made in China and/or India, Vietnam) is that considered an "American product" on which an Italian or EU tariff is imposed?

Thank you all in advance!


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1. Where can we find a schedule, chart, and/or website that details the tariffs that residents in foreign countries ACTUALLY pay for American goods they purchase?

2. What are considered "U.S. products" that are subjected to foreign tariffs? For example, for decades now we actually do not manufacture a lot of products; if an Italian buys an iPhone (which are made in China and/or India, Vietnam) is that considered an "American product" on which an Italian or EU tariff is imposed?

1 posted on 04/11/2025 7:35:59 AM PDT by ma_che62
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To: ma_che62

3. What other rules do the other countries have that limit sale of American goods in their countries? (There’s way more to it than just tariffs.)


2 posted on 04/11/2025 7:38:05 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ma_che62

Residents in foreign countries generally pay the original price of an American good sold in the United States (the sticker price at a retail store or the price on a website), plus any applicable import duties (tariffs), shipping fees, and their local taxes.

These additional costs can vary significantly based on the specific country, the type of good, and shipping methods.

Let’s say a foreign resident purchases a $100 American-made shirt online.

Original Price: $100
Import Duty (e.g., 5%): $5
Shipping Fees (e.g., $20): $20
Local Sales Tax (e.g., 10%): $11.65 (calculated on the total price)
Total: $100 + $5 + $20 + $11.65 = $136.65

The foreign resident would pay $136.65 for the shirt.


3 posted on 04/11/2025 7:43:58 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray...."Our Father, who art in heaven......" )
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To: Tell It Right

Yes, I know.

I simply would like to limit the question to tariffs...to start there.


4 posted on 04/11/2025 7:44:31 AM PDT by ma_che62 (Bring back "Fat Shaming" and the obesity epidemic will disappear)
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To: Liz

Indeed Liz, I know how the system works.

I’m simply searching for a chart that shows the rate of tariffs that foreign countries impose on U.S. goods they purchase.


5 posted on 04/11/2025 7:47:29 AM PDT by ma_che62 (Bring back "Fat Shaming" and the obesity epidemic will disappear)
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About two-thirds of the trade imbalance with China comes from the Chinese counterpart of ‘Buy American’.

People in China generally have the option of buying Chinese, and they do.

They don’t want to be seen as unpatriotic.

The 100% Chinese Huawei phone is bought, and the majority of the price American Apple phone isn’t.

****

What do we need to do?
1. make what we can for similar cost in the USA and prohibit the import of such except by barter
2. impose Trump-style trade deficit by country tariff rates


6 posted on 04/11/2025 7:59:37 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

It seems that no one here actually knows where to find the tariff rate (%) China, or any other country, imposes on American products.


7 posted on 04/11/2025 8:14:59 AM PDT by ma_che62 (Bring back "Fat Shaming" and the obesity epidemic will disappear)
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https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/customs-4/international-affairs/origin-goods_en

The origin of goods is based on 2 basic concepts (see Article 60 of the UCC):

‘wholly obtained’ products are entirely produced within a single country, including those obtained in their natural state as well as products derived from them. A comprehensive list is provided in Article 31 UCC-DA.

products that underwent a ‘last substantial transformation’ in the last country of production, in cases where two or more countries are involved in the production of goods.

In both cases, the country of origin of the goods is the country where the major portion of the materials originated, based on the value or the weight of the materials as indicated for the Chapter of the tariff classification.

A PDF is available via:
https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/customs-4/international-affairs/origin-goods/non-preferential-rules-origin_en


8 posted on 04/11/2025 8:18:04 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Thank you!
What is the rate of tariff that Switzerland imposes on American goods?
How about Germany, and France?


9 posted on 04/11/2025 8:22:45 AM PDT by ma_che62 (Bring back "Fat Shaming" and the obesity epidemic will disappear)
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22 pages:

https://www.wcoomd.org/~/media/wco/public/global/pdf/topics/origin/overview/origin-handbook/rules-of-origin-handbook.pdf

I can’t spare the time to investigate further.

The key thing to bear in mind is that if the EU targets an iPhone, China will get impacted.

An EU ‘bullet’ that hits an American company will also likely wound a third country and its companies and people.

American product companies are largely hollowed out branding shells.

If less Kentucky bourbon gets sold overseas, Joses and Pedros will still have to pay their American living expenses but will have less money to remit to relatives in Mexico and Central American countries.


10 posted on 04/11/2025 8:29:08 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin
<> Amen...I hear ya. It seems there is no way to simply compare Trump's new tariff schedule (by country) to what the ACTUAL RATES ARE. I wanted to get a sense as to how outrageous the outrage is on the part of the French, Germans etc. Oh well.....
11 posted on 04/11/2025 8:35:31 AM PDT by ma_che62 (Bring back "Fat Shaming" and the obesity epidemic will disappear)
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TARIC, the integrated Tariff of the European Union, is a multilingual database integrating all measures relating to EU customs tariff, commercial and agricultural legislation.

https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/customs-4/calculation-customs-duties/customs-tariff/eu-customs-tariff-taric_en

What you want to search for is:
tariff schedule


12 posted on 04/11/2025 8:37:57 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Key Resources to look up Tariff (Duty) Rates
Agricultural Tariff Tracker
Canada
Customs Info Database (Descartes) - This tariff search tool allows you to search duty rates MFN (standard) and Free Trade Agreement (preferential) as well as local taxes for over 170 countries. This database also includes FTA duties. It’s free and requires registration. You will need your 6-digit HS code to conduct the search. For more information on the Customs Info Database, visit our Customs Info Database User Guide webpage.
European Union Tariffs (TARIC) (use tariff rates listed for exports to 27 EU member countries.
FTA Tariff Tool (Incorporates all products, including agricultural and non-agricultural goods).
WTO Tariff Database: tariffdata.wto.org/ (use the “Applied Rates”). List of duty rates of World Trade Organization member countries). Requires registration.

https://www.trade.gov/import-tariffs-fees-overview-and-resources


13 posted on 04/11/2025 8:43:14 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: ma_che62

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate


14 posted on 04/11/2025 8:50:51 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: ma_che62

Import tax rates with de minimis

https://zonos.com/docs/guides/import-tax-rates-by-country

Those rates are fairly high but are generally only paid by small fry without further knowledge.


15 posted on 04/11/2025 8:54:27 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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“In 2023, around 72 % of the imports that entered the EU did so at zero tariff.”

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=International_trade_in_goods_-_tariffs


16 posted on 04/11/2025 8:57:22 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: ma_che62

A quick google search or Grok question will answer yours.

The thing about the tariff charts is you have to really read the footnotes and understand the nomenclature. For the “amateur (which we are) they can be like reading a foreign language.


17 posted on 04/11/2025 9:02:51 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: ma_che62

Tariffs usually are charge from where they are imported from. The reasons why we slapped big tariffs on Vietnam is because China would ship good to Vietnam, slap a label on them, and then resell them for export.


18 posted on 04/11/2025 9:04:17 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Tell It Right

What other rules do the other countries have that limit sale of American goods in their countries? (There’s way more to it than just tariffs.)
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There are controls on food products based on how they are grown (hormones, vaccinated animals, etc.)

One of the things these countries want to avoid is the highly processed crap we feed our people making their way into the bellies of their citizens.

Cheap chicken and beef are good—but they don’t want their 7 year old girls growing boobs


19 posted on 04/11/2025 9:06:44 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Brian Griffin

This would indicate that Trump’s preliminary tariff rates are outrageous. Must be his 5 dimesional chess game. But it seems rather exagerated.


20 posted on 04/11/2025 9:17:46 AM PDT by ma_che62 (Bring back "Fat Shaming" and the obesity epidemic will disappear)
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