Posted on 01/08/2025 1:34:58 PM PST by karpov
Much of medical education is careening into an ideological ditch. Following the directives of the “health equity” movement, med schools have veered off the course of teaching future doctors the basics of anatomy and various medical procedures to instead discuss how systemic racism causes back pain or how doctors can raise their own “critical consciousness.”
That being said, there are a few medical schools, such as NYU’s Grossman School of Medicine, that are heading in a new, surprisingly promising direction: They’ve crammed the traditional four-year course of study into three years, trimming the electives and carrying classes through the summer. This simple innovation in medical education is not only successful in itself but points to a better approach to higher learning more generally.
Superficially, such a change reeks of lowered standards. K-12 schools have gutted their curricula of any rigor and pass all students along, a trend that has led to a higher number of remedial courses becoming necessary at the collegiate level. Perhaps such mediocrity has finally reached medical schools, forcing them to ease up on their stereotypically unforgiving curricular demands?
Quite the contrary. A 2022 study comparing three-year medical schools to their traditional counterparts found that accelerated students entered their training with comparable admissions standards, achieved similar scores on medical examinations, and performed as well in their first year of residency. A follow-up comparative study from 2024 confirmed these results: There’s no marked difference in achievement between students who attend three- versus four-year medical schools.
There’s a famous thought experiment called “Chesterton’s Fence” that can help to frame this discussion. In it, G.K. Chesterton suggests that the purchaser of a new property should not tear down any fence until he knows the reason the fence was first erected.
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DEI Quacks .
Look out for these DEI morons with a license to kill .
AI has consequences.
The bar keeps being lowered into the ground.
I was warning of this development in the 1990s.
Lower the bar to get more ‘equity’.
The only way to make sure we have equity is to allow chimps to go to medical school.
There’s also no need for a bachelors degree prior to med school. You could easily have a 5 or 6 year med school right out of high school, with the first 2 years covering the pre-med courses they would have taken over their 4 year college degree. I don’t need my doctor to have a history, race studies, art or poly-sci degree, nor the debt associated with earning it.
Those who don’t make the cut in the pre-med can transfer to another non MD track.
WIKI
In the United Kingdom students generally begin medical school after secondary education. This contrasts with the US and Canadian (outside Quebec) systems, where a bachelor’s degree is required for entry to medical school. Entry to British medical schools is very competitive.
All leading British medical schools are state-funded and their core purpose is to train doctors on behalf of the National Health Service. Courses generally last four to six years: two years of pre-clinical training in an academic environment and two to three years clinical training at a teaching hospital and in community settings.
Lecture-based learning (LBL) consists of information delivered mainly through large lectures or seminars. This had been the predominant method of delivering pre-clinical medical education at many UK medical schools prior to the introduction of Tomorrow’s Doctors. Teaching is delivered via large teaching events at which several hundred students may be present, which guides learning. Students are encouraged to do their own reading between lectures as the lectures will only cover the main points.
Key points in support of LBL include that students gain the opportunity to listen to leading clinicians or academics...
In the UK, the focus is [now] on a [often more costly][problem-based learning] PBL-tutorial which is conducted in small groups of around 8–10 students (although this varies with seniority and between medical school) with a tutor (or facilitator) who usually comes from either a clinical or academic background, depending on the level of the course.
Academics at Maastricht University developed seven steps of what should happen in the PBL process:
The group read the scenario and clarify terms they do not understand
They define what the problem is
They brainstorm possible hypotheses or explanations
Come up with a possible solution
Define a series of learning objectives they should achieve by the next tutorial, arising out of the problem
Gather information to fulfil the learning objectives - this can be in the form of private study or reading; attending a lecture; having a discussion or teaching session with a relevant “expert”; attend a ward round or clinic; interview a relevant patient
At the next tutorial, students share the information they have gathered since the last tutorial, and discuss areas where information they have gained conflicts - this may lead to further learning objectives if they find they are still not clear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_school_in_the_United_Kingdom
IMO if the focus is on actual math and biological sciences, cutting out non essential electives (still need courses like medical ethics) then maybe this amount of time is not so far off.
Why don’t we just call them “nurses.”
All of our medical professionals should be required to wear shirts like Dr. Lexus has on - disclosing which drug companies they have gotten kickbacks from. :)
Yay us!!!!!
The profession of “doctor” is changing anyway. Doctors and US medicine have become hyper-specialized.
Expertise more-and-more lies with the device and pharmaceutical makers, and doctors are just “distributors.” So It’s not necessarily a bad thing, although I am sure government and leftists will abuse it in multiple ways. Certainly holistic medicine is nearly dead-and-gone in the US medical profession.
A friend is an orthopedic surgeon. All he does is hip replacements and its all he ever will do until he retires. Has done thousands of these operations. He’s trained up on the newest machinery from the corporate supplier, who brings him to nice conferences regularly for training and updates on their equipment.
If you ask him about the Covid Vax, he’ll just repeat whatever he recently read in The NY Times or Time magazine. Not a clue.
People better be careful what they wish for.
Anyone here willing to offer themselves up to heart or lung surgery to a Doctor trained in General Surgery? Which is basically what you have in Canada....
As a side note, my nephew is now a Thoracic surgeon for a major hospital group here in S.E. Michigan.
Here are his credentials:
4 years college at Williams College in Boston. Cost: $74,000 per year.
4 years medical school at University of Michigan. (cost unknown)
5 years general surgery at the University of Pittsburgh.
2 years Harvard Fellowship in Thoracic surgery at Mass General Hospital.....
You want the govt. to step in and grant 3 year degrees in medicine? LOL! I'll leave my medical problems to the local gas station mechanic, at least I'll get a free oil change out of it........
Back in the 90s it was ‘equity of outcomes’.
Med school takes brains and hard work.
The outcome was large sums of money.
Gummint wanted the stupid and lazy to get a chance to earn that kind of money.
Skin-color was merely implied at the time.
That’s 15 years of higher education and practical training.
“Thoracic surgery” ~= heart & lung surgery
I believe William College will be found in Williamstown, MA.
It is a beautiful campus in the northwest corner of MA near the VT border.
In modern America, most Americans live in cities and their suburbs.
Individual doctors need not be all knowing as in circa 1900 small-town America when one guy had to be able to do all that could be needed.
“All of our medical professionals should be required to wear shirts like Dr. Lexus has on - disclosing which drug companies they have gotten kickbacks from.”
Most insurers require step therapy nowadays. A member of the cheapest drug class likely to work first, then one of the next cheapest drug class, ...
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