Posted on 12/19/2024 9:53:38 AM PST by Red Badger
I swear I don’t even know what they are talking about at this point.
How could raising the debt ceiling lower social security payments?
Friendly suggestion to speaker Johnson. It’s Christmas. Call a recess until January 3rd. Everyone go home. Don’t worry, be happy.
What a friggin maroon!
pelosi broke her hip
and jeffries found his voice
Oh look, the Party of the elites and wealthy (Democrat Party) is suddenly pretending to care about social security. So cute.
I was wondering the same thing...
I see no reason to raise the debt ceiling. If money is tight, we can just fire a boatload of federal workers.
Every FREEPER in the past would hate raising the debt ceiling. Suddenly they are cheerleaders for it. Twilight zone territory.
Now cut welfare entitlements. it should be a state issue, not federal.
It’s not stupidity, it is much worse. It is purposeful deceit and misdirection. Everything is a calculation. The rats know the media establishment will blame the GOP for a “shutdown”. It has always worked but it might not this time.
Regarding shutdowns, you must remember several things:And THAT's why Johnson is in the predicament that he's in right now.
- Mitch McConnell has vowed to NEVER allow a government shutdown. The Senate is his Preciousssssss, and he would do anything to keep a government shutdown from happening.
- See: 8/7/2022 - Trump says McConnell ‘got played like a fiddle’ on Democrats spending bill
Former President Trump laid into Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Sunday after Senate Democrats passed their long-awaited health care, tax and climate package.“Mitch McConnell got played like a fiddle with the vote today by the Senate Democrats,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.
“First he gave them the fake Infrastructure Bill, then Guns, never used the Debt Ceiling for negotiating purposes (gave it away for NOTHING!), and now this,” Trump said. “Mitch doesn’t have a clue – he is sooo bad for the Republican Party!”
- See: 7/9/2022 - ‘We Got Our Ass Kicked’: John Kennedy Laments Senate Republican Loss to Democrats on CHIPS, Reconciliation
Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) said on Thursday that Senate Republicans got tricked into passing a semiconductor bill after believing that a Democrat reconciliation bill was dead.While Republicans were split on the merits of the legislation, most Republicans, including House Republican leadership, did not want to pass the CHIPS legislation if Democrats were to pursue a reconciliation bill to pass climate change, Obamacare, and other leftist priorities.
The same day that the Senate passed the CHIPS bill, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) announced a deal on the Inflation Reduction Act, a bill that would aim to reduce the deficit, raise taxes, and boost climate change and Obamacare spending.
Announcing the deal immediately after Senate Republicans backed the CHIPS bill left many GOP lawmakers with egg on their faces.
"We got our ass kicked. It’s just that simple. Looks to me like we got rinky-doo’d. That’s a Louisiana word for 'screwed.' And we got our ass kicked. That’s the way my people back home see it," Kennedy said...
McConnell also lost to Schumer on a debt ceiling fight in 2021, which led to a deal to temporarily create a carveout for the legislative filibuster. One former senior GOP aide said the deal was to save McConnell’s "ego."
- Knowing #1, Pelosi and Schumer always scheme to stall Republicans in the House and Senate in order to create debt ceiling crises because they know that McConnell is the weak link in that chain.
I don't know why McCarthy took so long in the House to get his spending bills worked out before slamming his side with it as the debt ceiling crisis loomed. Perhaps he was counting on Pelosi's promise to "always stand by him?" Perhaps he didn't see how he was being manipulated into wasting time over the summer in order to create the debt ceiling crisis that Democrats would then exploit in the Senate?
- Can't you see how Johnson is being manipulated into the same trap by Democrats? They drag out and delay in the House until deadlines loom, and then rely on McConnell in the Senate to react as he's been conditioned to. That's why McConnell was pressuring Johnson to comply with the Senate-side bill over Johnson's House bill.
- Can't you see how things might be different if our side coordinated between the two chambers, compared notes, told each other what the Democrats are doing on their side of the aisle in their respective chambers?
Because you know that's what Pelosi and Schumer are doing. It's why our side is always caught by surprise -- because our side in the Senate thinks the House is beneath them. That's why our side thinks it has to be the Senate bill that "fixes" what the peons in the House did.
Look up the Reconciliation procedure to see why Democrats push so hard for single omnibus bills.
Democrats can't control the vote on separate budget bills from the House because they can't get enough votes for cloture in the Senate. To get around that, they force everything into single omnibus bills that they can push through the reconciliation process that only requires a simple majority in the Senate to pass, but they can only do it once a year per revenue, spending, and debt ceiling bill.
The longer that Senate Democrats fail to act on House bills, the shorter the time becomes to pass a budget or hit the debt ceiling. Democrats and the LAAP-dog media always blame Republicans for "shutting down the government" saying that Republicans won't send them something that will pass in the Senate.
This puts pressure on the House to either send the Senate what Democrats want, or Democrats will use reconciliation to amend one massive omnibus spending bill via reconciliation and send it back to the House, again blaming them for a government shutdown if they don't pass the Senate bill.
The limit of one spending, one revenue, and one debt ceiling bill in the Senate makes the Democrats strategize how to use this streamlined process for maximum impact for Democrats. That's where the brinksmanship comes in. They can take separate revenue bills from the House and amend them together with Democrat pet budget items into one massive bill that only requires a simple majority in the Senate to pass, and then force the House to accept the Democrat bill or shut down the government (or Ukraine will die, or the Israeli hostages will dies...).
See this article from earlier today: Chuck Schumer brags to Senators about Mike Johnson giving Dems everything they wanted on Ukraine, foreign aid: report
Excerpt:
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer bragged on the Senate floor on Wednesday about how House Speaker Mike Johnson gave into Democratic demands in foreign aid packages.Human Events' Jack Posobiec said he heard from a senior Republican official that Schumer "was just on the Senate floor bragging to other members about Speaker Johnson giving Democrats everything they wanted in the Ukraine and foreign aid packages."
Keep in mind that the Democrats have NOT used their 2024 debt ceiling reconciliation bill yet, and the clock is ticking until January 3 when Republicans take over the Senate. Of course Jeffries is angry that this CR bill is being stopped. Schumer doesn't want the debt ceiling raised for 2025, because he'd lose the one sledgehammer that he's been so effective at using.
And they almost got Johnson to fall for it again, too, until Vivek, Elon, and President Trump stepped in to stop it.
-PJ
Of course the GOP gets the blame—but it won’t matter anyway.
Think about what is going to happen the next few years.
The howling from the left is going to be every day, twenty four seven.
The only folks who will even remember a government shutdown will be policy wonks with twelve followers on X.
Lol.
Jeffries has a functional majority for most matters that come before the House - he certainly has the votes to block almost anything the Trump faction of the GOP would want to do.
I hear the rinos are hard at work trying to get something.
Hear, hear!
Let people go home to their families for Christmas and restart the negotiations after the holiday season.
That is exactly why a government shut down right now is excellent.
No deal is much better than a bad deal.
Lol. I was thinking that too.
Also, why are THE REPUBLICANS trying to raise the debt ceiling and THE DEMOCRATS are against it???
What in the world is going on here?
They are moving to Pedo Sky so they can lie without repercussions.
“I swear I don’t even know what they are talking about at this point. How could raising the debt ceiling lower social security payments?”
You can’t see it? Raising the ceiling increases the area the drones can operate causing a decrease in social security maximum payment for firefighters. Trust me, it’s all Trump’s and Musk’s fault.
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