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Why did Democrats pass a law that forces people to buy health insurance that denies the claims of millions of sick people?
Wordpress ^ | December 16, 2024 | Daniel Alman (aka Dan from Squirrel Hill)

Posted on 12/16/2024 10:07:16 AM PST by grundle

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To: grundle

Look, this is the reality:

No one in Congress who voted for Medicare in 1964 or Medicaid in 1965 believed it was anything other than the first step to nationalization. Neither did the people who voted against it.

The results were unexpected, to say the least. Congress projected $8 billion in spending by 1993, they spent $800 billion instead.

“Obamacare” was an attempt to keep a hybrid private/public system alive, and it is failing. But it’s failing because it tries to do the impossible.

The compromises that have kept Medicare in place this long cannot be sustained. The system is near collapse. The choice will have to be faced, if not in the next five certainly in the next ten years whether to end Medicare or universalize it.

Based on the legislative history of Medicare AFTER 1965, and presuming Senators and Congressmen still get their jobs through elections, I would bet on Medicare for all in the near future.

But both parties have been complicit in concealing the effects of Federal health programs on the budget process, and the eventual outcome of ending regular order, increasing borrowing, devaluation of the currency, and other consequences of the Medicare experiment.


21 posted on 12/16/2024 10:46:03 AM PST by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: grundle

The insidious thing about obamacare is that measures were built into it for it to get more and more extreme down the road. It’s pure evil.


22 posted on 12/16/2024 10:49:12 AM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: grundle

Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the creep for whom this was named. Whose name was purposely left out of this headline

I told them at the time, you can pay for this supposed health care but no good doctor is going to get paid from it.

Anyone could have figured that out a long time ago. But Obama mesmerization is TDS It’s mental illness. It is debilitating

What can you do?


23 posted on 12/16/2024 10:53:35 AM PST by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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To: nobody in particular

I had forgotten how many folks requested, and received, exemptions from Obamacare.


24 posted on 12/16/2024 11:03:21 AM PST by SGCOS (The COVID vaccines and boosters will kill you)
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To: grundle

“Why did Democrats pass a law that forces people to buy health insurance that denies the claims of millions of sick people?”

Because that’s what evil does.


25 posted on 12/16/2024 11:04:58 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: grundle

0bembacare is simply a license-to-steal for all of the medical cartel.


26 posted on 12/16/2024 11:07:48 AM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: JSM_Liberty

“Private healthcare insurance companies are just as good at denying claims.

“Claims adjusters” have been around for a long time.”

In a perfect world where everyone is honest there would be no fraud and therefore no reason to have claims adjusters.
We don’t live in that world.


27 posted on 12/16/2024 11:16:30 AM PST by Gary from Dayton (Army Vet 1986-1991 unburdened by what I was burdened by before.)
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To: grundle

Seems they were only concerned with everyone HAD to get health insurance. Not so concerned with the actual effectiveness of the coverage.


28 posted on 12/16/2024 11:18:19 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: grundle

Interesting. Marking for later...


29 posted on 12/16/2024 11:38:41 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: fwdude

I’ve been seeing obamacare ads on Amazon Prime. I can deal with a commercial or two but geesh. All obamacare all the time. And they are sickening.

“Meet Mary. She is saving up to go on a big vacation and saving lots of money getting “help” with her insurance premiums.”

“Mark and Christy are saving up to buy a house and qualified for “free” health insurance premiums”

Just sick. I am paying for their premiums.


30 posted on 12/16/2024 12:15:55 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: NEMDF

“health coverage” was given top priority over “health care.” More people have “coverage” as a result of Obamacare - but less health care. Modest copays with lower premiums and now higher premiums with large deductibles even for the most expensive plans, with huge regulations causing greater scrutiny of what care can be paid for.

They could have done those Medicaid expansions without any of the other if it was truly about “helping the poor.” I’m not endorsing that as that has its own issues...but it would have left everyone else’s care alone.


31 posted on 12/16/2024 12:17:19 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Organic Panic

Right - if they can’t afford necessities and need government assistance, they don’t need to be spending money on a vacation. I guess that’s why the rest of us are affording fewer vacations ourselves.


32 posted on 12/16/2024 12:18:35 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: grundle

Why did Democrats pass a law that forces people to buy health insurance that denies the claims of millions of sick people?

One word covers it KICKBACKS.

The D.C. democrats didn’t become millionaires by winning the lottery.

And there’s a lot of them.


33 posted on 12/16/2024 12:28:08 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: grundle

How completely evil. Should be completely scrapped/nullified by Congress.


34 posted on 12/16/2024 12:43:58 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: grundle

Because that’s the way Barak wanted it.


35 posted on 12/16/2024 12:56:49 PM PST by oil_dude
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To: grundle

Day 1 remove all exemptions.


36 posted on 12/16/2024 1:27:06 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Drill Baby Drill!)
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To: grundle

This is why I love FR. Great post.


37 posted on 12/16/2024 1:29:01 PM PST by montag813
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To: grundle

Everything leads back to Wall St, Private Equity and Hedge Funds. The majority of which are led by limo liberals that just want control and money.


38 posted on 12/16/2024 2:24:22 PM PST by qaz123
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To: Flatus I. Maximus
"That’s easy. Because they hate old people and want them to die and get out of the way."

For them older people are a liability. It's that simple.

39 posted on 12/16/2024 9:57:45 PM PST by The Duke (Not without incident.)
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