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Should English Majors Pay Less?
James G. Martin Center for Academic Renewal ^ | December 6, 2024 | Joe Pitts

Posted on 12/08/2024 7:39:35 AM PST by karpov

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If you charge differential tuition by major, you should also charge different interest rates on student loans if repayment rates differ substantially by major.
1 posted on 12/08/2024 7:39:35 AM PST by karpov
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Lastly, universities should not lose sight of their non-economic utility. The university is the nucleus of the modern Western world. It is so not because it has served as an engine for economic growth (though it has!) but because it has fostered free and open inquiry, pursuing truth no matter its political unpopularity. Despite its decrepit state, higher education remains our best hope of cultivating the artes liberales—the knowledge and habits of mind requisite for the formation of free people and a free society. Universities are more than glorified vocational schools.

This guy should tune into the 21st century so that he can educate himself and realize how much of a problem "education" has become. Vocational schools are far superior.

2 posted on 12/08/2024 7:45:22 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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The ONLY way to fix the universities is to purge the communists.


3 posted on 12/08/2024 7:46:07 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I'm a nationalist. I'm white. How does that make me racist?)
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Make students pay according to the ultimate value of the student to society.

STEM degrees should cost a lot less. Doctor, RN, PA should cost a lot less.

Grievance studies, black studies, CRT studies, women’s studies, etc should cost 100x what the foregoing pay. These people are a massive net drag on our society. They don’t contribute a damned thing to improving our nation. I’d wager their long-term cost to us with their destructive beliefs and policies is a huge multiple of their “education” cost.


4 posted on 12/08/2024 7:46:48 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Facts can be ignored, but their consequences cannot be escaped” -- Thomas Sowell)
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Remember that it’s football that pays the bills.


5 posted on 12/08/2024 7:47:13 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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Remember that it’s football that pays the bills.


6 posted on 12/08/2024 7:47:13 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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The margins on non-STEM programs are much higher.

That’s why Big Ed loves them.

Even if they lower the tuition on those degree programs, the non-STEM, the students will still be paying far more than the degree will ever be worth in the job market.

Unless, of course, they plan on going to work for Deep State.


7 posted on 12/08/2024 7:50:33 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: ComputerGuy

Not at MIT or similar places.


8 posted on 12/08/2024 7:51:13 AM PST by ealgeone
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On the off chance you weren’t being facetious...

https://www.insidehighered.com/opinion/views/2024/01/12/college-athletics-costs-are-affordability-issue-opinion


9 posted on 12/08/2024 7:51:35 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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We need fewer universities & more community colleges that teach actual skills.


10 posted on 12/08/2024 7:51:47 AM PST by Twotone ( What's the difference between a politician & a flying pig? The letter "F.")
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Since it appears they are NOT being taught anything these days, charge them less.


11 posted on 12/08/2024 7:52:57 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within ? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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I was a chemistry major. And I paid lab fees along with my tuition. That should have covered the cost difference between my classes and classes like medieval poetry.

Anyway, it’s a bad idea to make non-STEM classes cheaper. It will just incentivize students to go into those cheaper, yet less useful courses.


12 posted on 12/08/2024 7:53:11 AM PST by Leaning Right (It’s morning in America. Again.)
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I think you would just increase the number of people getting low ROI (Return on Investment) degrees. A social science\liberal arts degree, e.g. English is easier to get then engineering\STEM degrees. Many go to college and follow the “path-of-least-resistance” toward the college degree. Decreasing the cost would make it more so! Instead of solving the problem of “costs” this would make it worse.


13 posted on 12/08/2024 7:53:58 AM PST by Reily (Viana )
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Garrison Keillor and The Society of English Majors approves.


14 posted on 12/08/2024 7:55:45 AM PST by bigbob (Yes. We ARE going back!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yes. Well said.


15 posted on 12/08/2024 7:55:48 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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Harvard has an endowment fund of over $50 billion.


16 posted on 12/08/2024 7:55:54 AM PST by Gaffer
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All majors should cost less. The idea of having an 18 year old sign for about $60 k with interest- and if they’re not old enough to drink, they’re not old enough to know how interest affects them- is sick. These kids are getting taken advantage of beyond reason and this demo voted Trump both genders all races

Parents advise your kids. These rip-off institutions are NOT guiding your kids. Their administrations have grown in size, in an age of computers where admin sizes should have decreased, so by their nature, they are a rip-off. They do not work for their customers any more than our congress works for tge american people. Thats about to change back to the original intent

Kids put the solo cup down. Whatever the major is, get a skill. Code, learn a language. Make sure it’s something you can live with if not love. Get an English degree but make it a second major or third. I have an English degree and it makes my life better but I have a science degree and a license that I use for a job to pay mortgage

The days of partying at a $2,000 a year school are over. The days of summer jobs helping with that are over. 2-3 majors and study through the summer.if a summer job is some enterprise or internship that’s different

Parents, be prepared to support and help these kids through this to at least 26. Calm down and let them figure out what they love to do. From an early age

That’s the only way they’re going to pay back $60- $100k

No amount of resentment, brow beating or forcing them to work at a low paying job, wasting good time will change that.

Tuition rates rise faster than the rate of inflation. Kids are getting charges too much and parents are not guiding this

Get a skill.


17 posted on 12/08/2024 8:01:55 AM PST by stanne
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Remove government subsidies of colleges and let the free market work.


18 posted on 12/08/2024 8:06:14 AM PST by fruser1
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Of what use is a degree in English, other than to become an English teacher?


19 posted on 12/08/2024 8:08:50 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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After I got my degree in Hip-Hop, jobs were few.


20 posted on 12/08/2024 8:11:47 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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