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Sen. Rand Paul: Trump Using Military For Deportations Would Be a ‘Huge Mistake’ (VIDEO)
Gateway Pundit ^ | November 20, 2024 | Ben Kew

Posted on 11/20/2024 3:34:00 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man

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To: Jane Long

Sad that he’s falling for the leftist narrative of American storm troopers ripping women and children apart and shooting anyone in the way. The actual plan is methodical and very well thought out for the safety and security of ALL Americans.


41 posted on 11/20/2024 4:43:44 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Hitler, huh RAND?


42 posted on 11/20/2024 4:44:50 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Let's Go Brandon! FCS (Schumer))
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To: Macho MAGA Man

For years now, I’ve heard the endlessly parroted breathless “immigrant illegals of military age!!” It’s so tirelessly coy, with an almost implied “wink wink nudge nudge”. Are these “military age” invaders of a foreign army or are they not?!Let’s absolutely get our military involved and find out, once and for all.


43 posted on 11/20/2024 4:48:21 PM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
Actually Trump could put the military elbow to elbow on the border and shift all the border patrol officers to the deportation mission.

Absolutely nothing wrong with our military protecting our border and keeping Americans safe from neighboring countries.

In fact, that's their mission.

44 posted on 11/20/2024 5:00:54 PM PST by Newbomb Turk
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To: Macho MAGA Man

His point is the constitution is against using military in police functions.

Do we want the next blue administration to send troops in to cities?


45 posted on 11/20/2024 5:02:32 PM PST by redgolum
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Isn’t it the military’s job to protect us from an invasion?


46 posted on 11/20/2024 5:05:12 PM PST by CrosscutSaw
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To: redgolum
Do we want the next blue administration to send troops in to cities?

To remove illegal alien invaders? Absolutely.

47 posted on 11/20/2024 5:06:36 PM PST by CrosscutSaw
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To: Macho MAGA Man

There are not going to be mass deportations of invaders.

The way to go is with a Pay&Stay fee. The irregular alien would pay $400/month minimum, with their FICA from two calendar years back being credited towards the $400 if timely and correctly paid. The delay is necessary because IRS doesn’t know who the FICA tax is paid for at the time the employer pays the FICA tax.

If the irregular alien earned $30,000, the FICA tax that should have been paid from the irregular alien’s earnings would be 6.2% of $30,000, or $1860. Divided by 12, that $1860 would come to $155/month.

The irregular alien would have to pay $245/month to stay that year. A 10% discount might be given if timely paid by automated means.

If the irregular alien is under age 18 and not in employment, their Pay&Stay fee would be $50/month.

Firmness can make many irregular aliens into good tax-paying people.

Once $100,000 in FICA tax is timely paid by the alien, an irregular alien might then be made eligible to apply for citizenship. There would be no sponsorship or reunification abilities under that citizenship.

Irregular aliens who timely pay their Pay&Stay fees, government levies, maintain insurance as required by law, and do not commit crimes punishable by imprisonment or fines in excess of $1,000 would not be subject to removal.

There would be 30 days of fee payment grace for each 12 months of timely Pay&Stay fee payments and payment of a $100 grace fee within a grace time.

Failure to pay a Pay&Stay fee would result in imprisonment for 1 year if less than 24 monthly fees were paid, as well as removal with any return subject to like imprisonment and removal.


48 posted on 11/20/2024 5:06:58 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Macho MAGA Man

FURP


49 posted on 11/20/2024 5:08:16 PM PST by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: Macho MAGA Man

“ARTICLE IV.
SECTION 4.
The United States shall...protect each of them against invasion”

Sen. Paul’s alternative to the US military?


50 posted on 11/20/2024 5:12:28 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Macho MAGA Man

For the love of...

There exists something called the Posse Comitatus Act.

LE is gonna be busting some hump. Them 60K armed IRS agents could be deputized for the task! Wouldn’t that be a kick in the pants!


51 posted on 11/20/2024 5:15:38 PM PST by Clutch Martin ("The dawn cracks hard like a bull whip and it ain't taking no lip from the night before" Tom Waits)
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To: Brian Griffin

That’s what Levin cited last night. Thanks, Brian.


52 posted on 11/20/2024 5:19:49 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical object)
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To: rlmorel

*** I understand his point that it isn’t a good look, and that our military personnel aren’t trained for this, fair enough. ***

In 1997, During Operation Gatekeeper a Texas Teen Esequiel Hernandez, Jr was shot and killed by a group of US marines in Redford, TX. The high schooler was herding his goats on his family’s ranch. The marines were wearing ghillie suits, IIRC, and traçked/followed the young man for 20 minutes before killing him. The family had not been informed of the military tromping around their property at the time.


53 posted on 11/20/2024 5:43:28 PM PST by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Question for Libertarians why does the government even exist if it’s not to protect its citizens...

Libertarian minimal government rules apply to citizens It doesn’t apply to non-citizens that come here illegally


54 posted on 11/20/2024 5:44:26 PM PST by tophat9000 (Tophat90000)
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To: Moe-Patrick
His comment HURT the MAGA movement and only helped his own ego. . .

It seems to me Rand didn't just win a national Presidential landslide based heavily on this issue, and everyone knows this. While this is a good question that should be (and has been) answered, the country knows it did not vote for supine paralysis, and the invasion will be reversed.

55 posted on 11/20/2024 6:01:11 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: Moe-Patrick

Though I agree it is a crisis issue, I disagree that Rand’s opinion hurts MAGA. IF, and that’s a big IF, we believe in our form of government, the Senator is right, or at least has a right to voice his opinion as a member of the upper chamber of an EQUAL but separate branch of government. I don’t mind the dissent…it keeps everyone honest and Trump is going to say “tough ti**y” to Rand and move on, which is fine, too….MAGA lives on.


56 posted on 11/20/2024 6:14:51 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: TornadoAlley3

How would Paul feel if a close relative of his was killed by and illegal?


57 posted on 11/20/2024 6:18:12 PM PST by chopperk (air)
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To: chopperk

‘How would Paul feel if a close relative of his was killed by and illegal?“

That’s the reason behind the constitution and law and order, not personal,retribution.


58 posted on 11/20/2024 6:19:55 PM PST by Fuzz
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Once the Germans cross the Poland border, the Polish military can’t send them back?


59 posted on 11/20/2024 6:24:23 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: alternatives?

Will they attack the Gleiwitz Radio Station, first?


60 posted on 11/20/2024 6:26:36 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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