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'We don't know where everybody went': Elections officials say Cuyahoga County voter turnout dropped in 2024
News 5 Cleveland (X) ^ | 11/7/24

Posted on 11/08/2024 3:32:42 AM PST by EBH

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Cleveland City Councilman Richard Starr, who represents Ward 5, said it was disappointing to see such low voter turnout in his ward, but he was not surprised residents failed to show up at the polls.

“Look at what the neighborhoods have been since George Bush got elected, since Barack Obama got elected, since all these different leaders, the neighborhoods remain the same," Starr said.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 2020election; cleveland; cuyahogacounty; election; fraud; ohio; richardstarr
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To: EBH

I’m not sure the 2020 riggers looked far enough ahead to see this big question arising in 2024 that would haunt them. It makes Trump’s case.


21 posted on 11/08/2024 3:59:38 AM PST by iontheball
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To: SauronOfMordor
Time for an audit of the “missing” voters, to see how many actually existed in the first place.

I'm willing to bet a lot of them did exist. They were just people who had no idea they "voted". They were mailing ballots all over the place in a lot of states. You didn't even have to request one. So the ballot harvesters would collect them at apartment complexes, nursing homes, etc, someone else would fill them out and send them in. Democrats and RINOs ensured the normal election integrity steps like a signature match check didn't happen.

It would be a lot more interesting to examine the security envelopes and see how many of them had "signatures" that were block letters or signatures that obviously did not match the signature on file for that voter and thus should have failed a signature match check. They did exactly that kind of investigation in Arizona.

Arizona Senate study estimates 200k ballots counted in 2020 with mismatched signatures

study of Maricopa County's mail ballots in Arizona's 2020 presidential election estimates that more than 200,000 ballots with mismatched signatures were counted without being reviewed, or "cured" — more than eight times the 25,000 signature mismatches requiring curing acknowledged by the county. Commissioned by the Arizona State Senate, the signature verification pilot study was conducted by Shiva Ayyadurai's Election Systems Integrity Institute, which released its final report to the public on Tuesday. Ayyadurai is an engineer and entrpreneur with four degrees from MIT who bills himself as the inventor of email, a claim which critics have alleged is exaggerated. Of the 1,911,918 early voting mail ballots that Maricopa County received and counted in the 2020 presidential election, the county reported that 25,000, or 1.3%, had signature mismatches that required curing, but only 587 (2.3%) of those were confirmed mismatched signatures. Under Maricopa County election rules, a reviewer first compares a signature on an envelope with the signature on file for the voter, which takes about 4-30 seconds. If the signature does not appear to match, the ballot is cured, which takes three or more minutes and includes attempts to contact the voter to determine whether or not the signature is a match. In the signature verification study, three expert forensic document examiners and three novices reviewed 499 images of early voting mail ballot envelopes to determine if the signatures on them matched with the signatures on file. All the reviewers agreed that 60 of the 499 envelopes, or 12% were signature mismatches. The pilot study extrapolated from the sample that more than 204,430 ballots should have been cured, and 5,277 should have been rejected. "We want to be humble about this," Ayyadurai said in a virtual presentation of the study. "While the study is compelling, an expanded study is warranted to confirm the findings of this study."

How many of those 200,000 that needed to be cured....ie the voter confirmed that was his/her signature on the security envelope would have failed? This was a state Biden "won" by 10,000 votes. If that went on in Arizona, how much went on in Detroit or Atlanta or Philadelphia?

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/maricopa-countys-200k-mail-ballots-mismatched-signatures-not-cured-2020

22 posted on 11/08/2024 4:01:52 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: EBH

Oh…the 3am voters decided the go to bed early this year…


23 posted on 11/08/2024 4:03:19 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: GOPJ

No Doubt everyone knew both Gestapo Gretchen in Michigan and Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania made it clear they were not going to look the other way this time. Both had every incentive to see Heels Up lose the election.....


24 posted on 11/08/2024 4:03:45 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: The Free Engineer

“The true weirdness is that in some places the turnout did not change.”

Correct—that makes the auditing job easier.

It means a complete walk through is needed only in those areas where there were big reductions from 2020 to 2024.

Vacant derelict buildings full of apartments are probably still on the “voter” registration rolls.


25 posted on 11/08/2024 4:04:20 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: EBH

Like all those New Orleans police officers that went “missing” in the wake of hurricane Katrina.

Folks first asked, “Where did they go?” It dawned on them later to ask, “Were they ever really there?”


26 posted on 11/08/2024 4:06:12 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: EBH

Cleveland is another Democrat run hell hole. That explains everything.


27 posted on 11/08/2024 4:15:06 AM PST by caver ( )
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To: All
since all these different leaders, the neighborhoods remain the same,

Well…thats because local government has stayed the same. Firmly in democrat control. The last time Cleveland had a semblance of a renaissance was when George Voinovich was mayor in the 80s. Hmmm. What party was that?

Dems have been in the take ever since.
28 posted on 11/08/2024 4:17:27 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: EBH
I worked Tuesday as an elections official in a predominantly black district in Cleveland. Voting was heavy, especially in the morning, but by and large, people were patient and polite. There were a few old ladies that bitched about waiting in line, but that was about the extent of it.

We had about two thousand people come through during the day. I did get the impression from observing and interacting with people that a decent number of young black men were supporting Trump... attracted by the strength that DJT projects, in my opinion.

29 posted on 11/08/2024 4:22:28 AM PST by IndyTiger
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To: FLT-bird

I posted on a similar thread yesterday that Biden got ~600K more votes than Harris did in Illinois. Trump’s vote tallies were about the same...


30 posted on 11/08/2024 4:24:44 AM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: EVO X

Bannon was asking on Tuesday
where the 600,000 PA went in 24.
Pres Jill should be in jail .


31 posted on 11/08/2024 4:36:37 AM PST by ncalburt ( Gop DC Globalists are the evil)
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To: IndyTiger

I voted on Tuesday and if one goes back to my Tuesday posts, turn out was heavy. Resident of Cuyahoga


32 posted on 11/08/2024 4:51:42 AM PST by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon (1/21-))
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To: ncalburt

The excess Biden votes in Illinois would have had to been generated in the Chicago area. For my downstate metro area, you had to request a mail in ballot by mail or online. Now there is an option receive a ballot each election without requesting it each time. There were some heavy early voting lines this time, so there are many people that don’t trust the mail in system.


33 posted on 11/08/2024 5:04:03 AM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: rarestia

That 2020 clip of Biden’s pre-election boast that the democrats had the best vote fraud system in U.S. history needs to be resuscitated and go viral.


34 posted on 11/08/2024 5:11:59 AM PST by sphinx
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To: EBH

Back into an other dimension from where they came.


35 posted on 11/08/2024 5:14:43 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: EBH

Yeah, somehow 20 million democrats decided not to vote. I’m so sure.


36 posted on 11/08/2024 5:16:41 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: IndyTiger

Thank you for helping keep things honest!


37 posted on 11/08/2024 5:22:32 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: EBH

Ican see his point.
Voter turnout was down to only 117%.


38 posted on 11/08/2024 5:29:03 AM PST by samiam5
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To: RoosterRedux

Seems legit.


39 posted on 11/08/2024 5:29:58 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: EBH

I think there’s a head fake going on. Look at Trumps performance vs senate and house seats. Hard to believe he swept all the swing states and didn’t pull all the senate candidates with him. Michigan, Nevada, Wisconsin, Arizona, we should have won all those as Trump won the states. And, why are we struggling to hold the house?

My guess is they knew all eyes would be on the presidential election and they had their focus on congress to thwart a Trump presidency.


40 posted on 11/08/2024 5:43:55 AM PST by TiGuy22
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