Posted on 10/16/2024 9:44:37 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
Remember the poplar vote compact?
Following the 2016 election, several blue states began to pass bills, that would give their states electoral votes to the winner of the popular votes… as of today 17 states and the District of Columbia have passed such legislation, ever single one of them has been a traditionally blue state, at least for the last several election cycles.
Now, we are closing in on the 2024 election and it certainly appears the Donald Trump, has a legitimate chance for, and is actively making a play for the national popular vote. Several polls have the national polling within the margin of error, and a few even have Trump ahead in the national vote.
This falls under the rubrics of “Be careful what you wish for. You might just get it.”
No doubt the Dims are aware of this too and have all the preprinted paper ballots and nursing home voter drives on standby to produce whatever “votes” are needed to keep Trump from winning the popular vote.
If the DNC's nitwit idea wound up implemented in enough (probably blue-ish) states, the Pubbie voting in California would get a kick in the pants, because they'd know that their votes would tip a bunch of electoral votes out of the grasp of the Demagogic Party, and probably for at least a generation. So, go ahead, make my day.
One is the Electoral College and the other is the certification, or not, of the election by VPOTUS.
Note that only the Rats want the popular vote to determine the electors.
Obviously we need to keep the Electoral College AND the ability to throw invalid electoral results to the state legislatures, which should have been done, and would have been done had Pence not been so spineless or so in on The Steal.
IIRC, the popular vote compact would only kick in only after enough states signed on to control 270 electoral votes.
They're for the filibuster when it's to their advantage and against it when it's not.
Liberals are like the weather...
The other 48 states can’t stop California and New York from flooding the popular vote totals with illegal alien votes. The electoral college is essential to try to make sure that crime doesn’t elect a President.
So Kamala can refuse to certify if she loses?
It was a terrible idea when some tried to push Pence into that, and it's still a terrible idea in addition to being unconstitutional.
Which I guess would throw it back to the state legislatures. Which would be good for normals but bad for Rats. So she would not do it.
Yes, that's correct. However, it would fail anyway because it would be invalidated by the Court, at least a non-packed Court, because it's an obvious end around the Constitution. You can no more do that popular vote scheme than you can tax ammunition into oblivion as a way to circumvent the 2nd Amendment.
I find it very hard to believe such a law can be considered Constitutional. Why would people in a particular state wish to have their electoral college representation affected by other states solely based on the whims of the other states?
I always thought that during certification in January, congress could vote to send the electors back to their respective states if there were an issue. It was the last stop gap measure to insure “fair” elections. I was taught this in civics class in high school back in the 70s. Was this wrong? Have I been wrong all these years?
I can’t believe how f-ing stupid the libs are.
They got all their solid blue states to agree to go with the popular vote winner. That will never benefit them and will only hurt them.
Since the red states aren’t agreeing to it, if the Dem wins the popular vote it is just business as usual and the Republican can still win the electoral college. But if the Republican wins then it will be a Republican landslide.
Such idiots.
This falls under the rubrics of “Be careful what you wish for. You might just get it.”
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Absolutely! Let’s stick with the Republican as the founders established it.
The popular vote compact is also stupid because it is unenforceable. If every state signed onto it and Donald Trump “won” the national popular vote, nothing would stop California (for example) from withdrawing from it after Election Day.l and giving their electoral votes to Harris.
The first one is correct. The second one is ludicrous. This idea that the VP can unilaterally determine the outcome of a presidential election is one of the dumbest ideas ever to make the rounds here on FR … and that’s really saying something.
A VP ‘certifying’ the results is not merely ceremonial.
Otherwise the founders would have said “the vp COUNTS the votes’
If there are questions (and there were MANY) he can wait to certify until those questions are answered. That is not the same as ‘unilaterally deciding’ the outcome.
“This falls under the rubrics of “Be careful what you wish for. You might just get it.”
It’s not in effect yet as they need enough states to total 270 electoral votes to join.
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