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Sabine Hossenfelder, physicist: ‘If you trust the mathematics, we are immortal’
EL PAÍS US EDITION ^ | OCT 06, 2024 - 10:15 EDT | Raúl Limón

Posted on 10/13/2024 2:28:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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1 posted on 10/13/2024 2:28:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I love Sabine’s youtube episodes. Quirky humor and a very intelligent scientist. Comments on and explains a variety of interesting subjects in everyday terms.


2 posted on 10/13/2024 2:36:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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3 posted on 10/13/2024 2:37:58 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

With the assumption that information cannot be destroyed...


4 posted on 10/13/2024 2:38:32 PM PDT by null and void (Illegal aliens are put up in fine hotels, Americans in Appalacha are left to starve in the elements)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well........in the current nonsensical, woke vernacular “I identify as immortal.” Math or no math, “I am what I am.”


5 posted on 10/13/2024 2:41:47 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Roger Penrose thinks that consciousness occurs as a quantum wave form collapse. So the soul itself exists as something like a quantum waveform (my words, not his), written in the fabric of space-time itself. Sort of like the aliens in the Space Odyssey books (not the movies). But who can say—quantum mechanics is like an ocean, and we only understand a few drops of it.


6 posted on 10/13/2024 2:45:36 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Sabine has an independent streak which I admire. She is her own person.

She has been pummeled for years for her position that String Theory is a dead end going nowhere. She essentially lost her job and now is relegated to hosting a youtube channel as I understand.


7 posted on 10/13/2024 2:47:10 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I guess I’m unclear as to how information can have existence in and of itself - it seems to me that information must be associated with some sort of medium - a piece of paper with markings on it, an electromagnetic signal, a collection of neurons, a set of semiconductor units, whatever.


8 posted on 10/13/2024 2:48:01 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Atheism is a religion.


9 posted on 10/13/2024 2:51:18 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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10 posted on 10/13/2024 2:52:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: plain talk

Curt Jaimungel has an amazing youtube channel discussing all these issues—philosophy, science, math, physics, ufos—with a wide variety of interesting folks.

The experts love beating up each other on the subject of string theory.

Theories of Everything:

https://www.youtube.com/@TheoriesofEverything/videos

Warning—there are a thousand videos here!

(Unfortunately there is no Rumble version.)


11 posted on 10/13/2024 2:57:22 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

There is a lot of mush in there, all the usual confusion of philosophy, physics, and quantum elements which are popoular today.

BTW she isn’t really giving hope for anything we would think of as “immortality” or life after death.

A mix of the big bang, “consciousness”, quantum measurement, predeterminism, “information”, your atoms spreading all over the universe (unlikely).

Modern physics is hopelessly lost.


12 posted on 10/13/2024 2:57:55 PM PDT by Williams (Let's Focus On Electing President Trump)
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“Modern physics is hopelessly lost.”

I consider that statement both true and good news.

That means they are learning some humility—the hard way.

Nature is really really complex.

Confusion means they are starting to get that.


13 posted on 10/13/2024 3:00:18 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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I’ll check him out. Eric Weinstein is another of these independent minded thinkers out there.

He is an economist and mathematician not a physicist yet he knows quite a bit about physics and a host of subjects. He’s pretty decent at sifting through the BS and worth a listen. He does love to listen to himself talk though. :-)


14 posted on 10/13/2024 3:05:34 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Williams

What we think of as Life, disappears at the moment of death. Like turning off a light. The light isn’t aware that it isn’t on. And life for everyone else just goes on.


15 posted on 10/13/2024 3:08:49 PM PDT by atc23 (The Matriarchal Society we embrace has led to masks and mandates and the cult of "safety")
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I have had similar thoughts before, just in my own untrained, math-phobic pedestrian mind. The quantum waveforms are what eventually ‘freeze’, solidify and become our fingerprints, our very own Product Barcode.


16 posted on 10/13/2024 3:24:25 PM PDT by lee martell
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Worth a listen...

https://podbay.fm/p/where-is-my-mind


17 posted on 10/13/2024 3:26:13 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: atc23

BS


18 posted on 10/13/2024 3:31:52 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: jacknhoo

Physics is not the same as atheism. Quantum Physics says (mathematically) knowledge lives on. Matter cannot be destroyed, only changed. I am convinced we live in a computer simulation. This does not mean I am an atheist. Also it does not conflict with the Bible. What we see here is temporary, what comes next is permanent. Heaven is not only permanent but it is in perfect order. Something we cannot wrap our heads around. Physics is only glimpsing the intricate and complex universe we live in and find we are hopelessly overwhelmed by it. God is eternal and has always existed and we cannot understand that, or at least I cannot but I know what it is true.


19 posted on 10/13/2024 3:33:29 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I may have flunked high school but the pigeons have accepted me as their leader, so I have that.)
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To: lee martell

Help stamp out entropy!


20 posted on 10/13/2024 3:47:51 PM PDT by The Duke (Not without incident.)
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