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MSM Demand Zelensky Admit He Can’t Win the War, Report On Ukraine’s Old and Poorly Trained Soldiers Who Are Dying Fast and Panicking Under Fire
Gateway Pundit ^ | Sep. 29, 2024 | By Paul Serran

Posted on 09/29/2024 9:06:05 AM PDT by Kazan

Two and a half years since the war began, we’ve finally come to the point where most of the Mockingbird Media is ready to call it quits, and openly admit the obvious: Russian Federation troops are winning the war.

Even in their cheerleading for Kiev, they have to admit that ‘if Ukraine and its Western backers are to win, they must first have the courage to admit that they are losing.’

The Economist reported:

“A measure of Ukraine’s declining fortunes is Russia’s advance in the east, particularly around the city of Pokrovsk.

[…] Ukraine is also struggling off the battlefield. Russia has destroyed so much of the power grid that Ukrainians will face the freezing winter with daily blackouts of up to 16 hours. People are tired of war. The army is struggling to mobilize and train enough troops to hold the line, let alone retake territory. There is a growing gap between the total victory many Ukrainians say they want, and their willingness or ability to fight for it.”

Another unmistakable realization is that abroad, ‘fatigue is setting in’, be it in Germany and France or in the United States.

“If Mr Zelensky continues to defy reality by insisting that Ukraine’s army can take back all the land Russia has stolen since 2014, he will drive away Ukraine’s backers and further divide Ukrainian society. Whether or not Mr Trump wins in November, the only hope of keeping American and European support and uniting Ukrainians is for a new approach that starts with leaders stating honestly what victory means.”

It’s become obvious that he does not have the men or arms to turn the war around.

In a different report, the same The Economist has to state that “With his army gradually losing ground, his people’s enthusiasm for the war flagging and Western support in doubt, Mr. Zelensky is in a bind.”

The article reminds Western readers that ‘since Ukraine recaptured the city of Kherson in late 2022, it has made almost no progress repelling Russia’s invasion’.

The summer offensive in 2023 was a failure, and now Moscow is closing in on several more Ukrainian strongholds in Donetsk, including Pokrovsk and Ugledar.

Another harsh reality they start to face is the attacker’s huge advantage in firepower, especially now with glide bombs, which are guided munitions of up to 3 tons that can flatten defensive positions and slaughter troops.

“Russia [has launched] nine waves of attacks from March to August against Ukraine’s power plants and electricity grid. It has hit targets in almost every province under Ukrainian control, according to a recent UN report. This onslaught took out some 80% of Ukraine’s coal- and gas-fired generation.”

At this point, 77% of Ukrainians say a friend or acquaintance has died in the war, while 22% have lost a relative.

That is not all, because Some 6.5m people – almost a fifth of the population – have fled the country.

And who are the people that Kyiv expects to turn this around? Old – for war – conscripted people with an average age of 45 years old, whose training standards have reportedly been so poor that not all of them know how to hold a weapon.

Military Watch Magazine reported:

“The Ukrainian Army is suffering from a continued decline in the capabilities of its frontline units, as losses among trained and experienced units have fuelled a fast growing reliance on conscript units with very limited operational capabilities.”

Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi says that recruits ‘have consistently proven to lack necessary training for frontline operations’.

Senior conscription officer: “Out of 100 people who joined the units last fall, 10-20 remain, the rest are dead, wounded or disabled.”

Financial Times reported:

“Ukraine’s troops and their commanders are growing concerned over manpower problems, particularly the quality of new recruits and the speed at which they are injured or killed in combat.

[…] The new conscripts lack basic combat skills and motivation and often abandon their positions when they come under fire.

[…] The commanders estimated that 50 to 70 percent of new infantry troops were killed or wounded within days of starting their first rotation.

‘When the new guys get to the position, a lot of them run away at the first shell explosion’.”

Since the a new conscription law in May, Ukraine has managed to to draft about 30,000 soldiers a month – mostly by force.

“But commanders on the ground and military analysts have warned that the newly drafted troops are not highly motivated, are psychologically and physically unprepared — and are being killed at an alarming rate as a result.”

The remaining seasoned soldiers die too quickly and are being replaced by older men without experience and in worse physical shape.

“’Some of them don’t even know how to hold their rifles. They peel more potatoes than they shoot bullets’, he said, adding that he had bought paintball equipment to replace rifles and live rounds so that new recruits could get more practice without wasting precious ammunition.”


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To: bimboeruption

21 posted on 09/29/2024 10:42:06 AM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: Kazan

zoolinsky got his retirement bugout money. it’ll be over soon.


22 posted on 09/29/2024 10:59:59 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Kazan
So, the problem is the West and we didn't give and spend enough on this war?

No, Biden admin didn't send offensive weapons, mostly defensive anti-missile weaponry. Nobody ever won a war, playing defense.

For instance, how many tanks did we send to Ukraine? 31 We have thousands in storage. How many F16's did we send Ukraine? Zero. How many Predator drones did we send? Zero, while we retired old Predator drones.

23 posted on 09/29/2024 11:04:07 AM PDT by tlozo (Russia is ruled by a psychologically deranged dictator and worst of all, it obediently follows)
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To: Kazan; tlozo
Is it beginning to sound like the ghouls pushing for the continuation of this proxy war, that our Neocons started, only exist to feast on the casualties at the front-lines?   Even Robert E. Lee knew when to surrender.
24 posted on 09/29/2024 11:05:28 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: Kazan
You don't seem to realize that most Ukrainian males don't want to go to frontlines. Rounding up unwilling conscripts is not a model that can win a war.

Sure, we never had to round up unwilling conscripts. Okay

New York City draft riots

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots

25 posted on 09/29/2024 11:06:31 AM PDT by tlozo (Russia is ruled by a psychologically deranged dictator and worst of all, it obediently follows)
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To: Kazan

This whole post is just another example that Kazan is a Russian troll.


26 posted on 09/29/2024 11:09:02 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: Allegra

Families are now hiding not just their sons but now fathers and grandfathers. Ukraine wants Europe to round up Ukraine men in their country and send them home.


27 posted on 09/29/2024 11:10:57 AM PDT by wgmalabama (Slug Slime is not art it’s just mucus to grease the wheels of servitude. )
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To: higgmeister
this proxy war, that our Neocons started

What is with Libs and others that contort the English language in order to push their propaganda? (For example, its choice not pro-abortion)

Wars are started by countries that invade, eg Hitler invaded Poland.

Just as the Ukraine war started with Putin invading independent Ukraine.

28 posted on 09/29/2024 11:13:40 AM PDT by tlozo (Russia is ruled by a psychologically deranged dictator and worst of all, it obediently follows)
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To: tlozo
Sure, we never had to round up unwilling conscripts.

Conscription squads send Ukrainian men into hiding

Overlooking the Black Sea in the southern city of Odesa, Tania quietly murmured that she understood why her friends and family did not want to fight.

Her father was killed on the front line in October, during the attritional battle for Avdiivka, and the 24-year-old is now terrified of her new husband being conscripted. “I don’t want this to happen to my family twice,” she said.

More than two years into the war, almost everyone knows someone who has been killed. Grim news has poured out from the front, of Ukraine being vastly outnumbered and outgunned.

Over the phone, the couple’s friend of 15 years, Maksym, relayed such tales. Among the dead are around a dozen of his friends and acquaintances. “There are more than a million police officers in Ukraine, why should I fight when they are not?" he said.

Maksym, who has a young daughter and wife who is seven months pregnant, said he was sorry to miss the wedding but was afraid of being “grabbed” by conscription officers who he likened to “bandits”.

29 posted on 09/29/2024 11:15:56 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
There is never a chance Ukraine and NATO could match the ammo or missile production of Russia.

LOL, NATO could never produce or buy on the open market more missiles or ammo than Russia? Seriously?

30 posted on 09/29/2024 11:16:17 AM PDT by tlozo (Russia is ruled by a psychologically deranged dictator and worst of all, it obediently follows)
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To: tlozo
Wars are started by countries that invade, eg Hitler invaded Poland.

Like we did when we invade Iraq twice and Afghanistan?

Was invading Afghanistan justified?

31 posted on 09/29/2024 11:17:06 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
Conscription squads send Ukrainian men into hiding

Right, and a million Russian men fled Russia? So what?

32 posted on 09/29/2024 11:17:41 AM PDT by tlozo (Russia is ruled by a psychologically deranged dictator and worst of all, it obediently follows)
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To: tlozo
Wars are started by countries that invade, eg Hitler invaded Poland.

Donetsk and Lugansk were INVADED by Ukrainian nationalists after an illegal coup through a President out of office they voted for.

Those regions and Crimea had EVERY right to their independence, to seek help from Russia and to join the Russian Federation.

33 posted on 09/29/2024 11:18:18 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
Donetsk and Lugansk were INVADED by Ukrainian nationalists

LOL, Ukrainian Donetsk and Luhansk was "INVADED" by Ukraine. Okay

34 posted on 09/29/2024 11:21:06 AM PDT by tlozo (Russia is ruled by a psychologically deranged dictator and worst of all, it obediently follows)
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To: Kazan
There is never a chance Ukraine and NATO could match the ammo or missile production of Russia.

Is that why Russia has to smuggle in the US and European electronic parts they need to build missiles?

Is that why Russia relies on US and European made machine tools?

If you really believe that Russian propaganda talking point I've got some great water front real estate you should buy.

35 posted on 09/29/2024 11:21:59 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Kazan
Wars are started by countries that invade, eg Hitler invaded Poland.

Like we did when we invade Iraq twice and Afghanistan?

Sure, our invasion of countries is exactly like Hitlers (or Putins) invasion of neighboring countries for territorial annexation. Okay

36 posted on 09/29/2024 11:23:26 AM PDT by tlozo (Russia is ruled by a psychologically deranged dictator and worst of all, it obediently follows)
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To: Kazan

NATO won’t put its troops on the ground against anyone fighting with more than sticks and stones, so their cannon fodder victims will always lose to a larger standing army. We’ve been through at least a dozen “game changer” weapons/tanks/planes/etc. and Ukraine is losing territory faster now. NATO/US is running out of weapons/ammo to give away and not producing new ones as fast as Russia. The most amusing part is NATO/Z demanding negotiations. Russia is busy taking land and attritting enemy soldiers. Russia doesn’t need to negotiate. The only people making out are weapons producers, replacing what gets used and/or destroyed before use.


37 posted on 09/29/2024 11:26:27 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (.You will suffer from one: The pain of discipline or the pain of regret. )
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To: tlozo
Sure, our invasion of countries is exactly like Hitlers (or Putins) invasion of neighboring countries for territorial annexation.

Tell that to the Christians in Iraq and Syria that were slaughtered because we overthrow Saddam and worked with Islamic radicals in Syria.

The Russians are literally liberating ethnic Russians in Donbass from neo-Nazi Ukrainian nationalists that orchestrated an illegal coup in 2014.

Compare that to our rationale for going into Iraq -- oil and the false premise that Iraq and WMD.

You're the one backing the neo-Nazis in Ukraine.

38 posted on 09/29/2024 11:30:19 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: freeandfreezing
It's not arguable Russia is and has been producing far more ammo and missiles than NATO during this war with huge advantages in both fired.

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/russia-ammunition-ukraine/

Indeed, Russia is outproducing all of NATO and the U.S in terms of ammunition, rockets, and tanks, despite having a 2023 defense budget of just $100 billion and a GDP of $2 trillion. Compare this to the combined US/NATO defense budget of $1.47 trillion and a combined GDP of about $45 trillion.

39 posted on 09/29/2024 11:41:37 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: wgmalabama

I think Europe likes having the extra intelligent Ukrainian refugees who will work cheap!


40 posted on 09/29/2024 11:42:43 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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