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We really do need attack submarines. And, sadly, we don't seem to be able to get oursevlves together to get them built. Russia and China seem to have this locked down.
1 posted on 09/27/2024 12:26:53 PM PDT by whyilovetexas111
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What we really do not need in the future are aircraft carriers.

AI, drone swarms, hypersonic missiles and even the Houthis seem to be proving this.

But given government bloat, MIC $$$ and the massive institutional momentum and bureaucratic and career bias , changes are never made until it becomes a crisis.


2 posted on 09/27/2024 12:36:02 PM PDT by PGR88
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Russia and China DO NOT have this locked down...China’s newest submarine sank at the pier this summer and the entire Russian Navy is in disarray.....We definitely have lost our way on shipbuilding but proper management and stable funding would fix it.


3 posted on 09/27/2024 12:36:05 PM PDT by The Klingon
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Hard to fathom?......


4 posted on 09/27/2024 12:39:58 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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This author puts out a lot of articles. Same guy who only yesterday was posted here with an article with over-the-top praise for our Navy’s top admrial(ette) Lisa Franchetti. Not to be mean but it was utter drivel.


7 posted on 09/27/2024 12:53:29 PM PDT by Stingray51 ( )
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What are “…major end items”? Was this article written by AI?


8 posted on 09/27/2024 12:56:08 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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Who knows what the U.S. military will look like in two decades?


Much like the Canadian one, but smaller.

The US Navy cannot afford to maintain the ships they have, don’t have enough sailors to man them, but now they want to build a multi billion, multi billion dollar submarine?


11 posted on 09/27/2024 1:31:51 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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There are only two types of ships ... submarines and targets. We need more of one and less of the other. When I rode boomers back in the 70s, there were 41 SSBNs. Now there are 14. We have 54 fast attacks now when we used to have over 100.


13 posted on 09/27/2024 1:36:59 PM PDT by MNnice
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There are a few subs available for cheap. They do require some fixing up.



14 posted on 09/27/2024 1:55:05 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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“Hard to fathom?”


16 posted on 09/27/2024 1:55:27 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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Bad rivets?


17 posted on 09/27/2024 2:17:42 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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A reminder: It’s not “our” navy, except in the sense that we’re forced to pay for it.


18 posted on 09/27/2024 3:09:01 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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Who knows what the U.S. military will look like in two decades?

Waving my hand wildly in the air.

I DO! I DO!

It will look like a pride parade in San Francisco.

19 posted on 09/27/2024 6:19:35 PM PDT by PAR35
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