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QB Matthew Sluka to quit UNLV, says 'representations' not upheld
ESPN ^ | 09/25/24 | ESPN News Services

Posted on 09/25/2024 9:34:03 AM PDT by srmanuel

The destruction of college football appears to be complete, a QB from Holy Cross who was a multi-year starter and put up great numbers running and passing, decides to transfer to UNLV to play his final year at a higher level of college football. UNLV is 3-0 to start the season with a big Mountain West Conference game scheduled for this Saturday, the transfer QB decides to QUIT and hints promises about his NIL payments did not come thru, by quitting before the 4th game the player preserves his Red Shirt year and can transfer to another school to play next season.


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KEYWORDS: football; unlv
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To: dfwgator

With the NIL and Portal college sports are more like professional sports than they have ever been, might as well and go all the way with true playoffs where you win and advance and no committee judges who gets in and who doesn’t.


61 posted on 09/25/2024 12:25:48 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: srmanuel

That was true in the past. But today, I doubt many of these players who go through 3-4 schools wind up a degree.

How many schools did Emory Jones end up going to after he left UF?


62 posted on 09/25/2024 12:28:28 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Round Earther
College football players deliver value to their schools and should be paid accordingly.

If they are using college as a stepping stone to the NFL or NBA and not interested in the education, then they should be required to reimburse the university for the total cost of their tuition and room and board from their pro signing bonus.

63 posted on 09/25/2024 12:31:08 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

The TV contracts alone pay the colleges more than they spend on the players. And really, isn’t college supposed to be setting you up for adulthood? Plenty of industries other than sports are digging into those college ranks. Should scholarship students to Harvard Law have to pay back the school when they get a job at a big name firm?

The fact is college sports haven’t been amateur for DECADES. If you’re paying the coach millions, if you’re making millions, it’s not amateur. They just kept that illusion around to not pay the players, the ones taking all the risks. It was crooked, it was immoral, and it should have been illegal.


64 posted on 09/25/2024 12:37:39 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: dfwgator

If you look at the numbers only a handful of players transfer more than once.

Graham Mertz got his degree from UF after spending several years at Wisconsin.

Then you have to factor in players that come back to a school to get a degree years later, Fred Taylor and Brandon Spikes are two recent examples of players who left UF without a degree, played in the NFL and came back to finish their degrees.

75-80% or more of college athletes end up with degrees, even if they have to come back years later.

Here’s a chart by conference of college football graduation rates, UF thru 2023 had a 93% graduation rate.

https://gtswarm.com/threads/graduation-rates-by-conference.27801/

Granted all the degrees are mechanical engineering but they are degrees none the less.


65 posted on 09/25/2024 12:49:09 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: discostu
Should scholarship students to Harvard Law have to pay back the school when they get a job at a big name firm?

Of course not, they're goal was to get an education and such scholarships are income based.

How many Harvard law school grads gave up working for a big name law firm and are playing in the NFL or NBA today?

Apples and oranges

66 posted on 09/25/2024 12:52:06 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

Their goal was to get a big job. Not apples and oranges at all. They went to college to get into lucrative professional jobs. People at big dog law firms are going to make more money than athletes over the course of their career. It’s apples and apples. My trainer’s kid went to college for investment banking, almost his entire class “intern” jobs paying middle class money by the end of their 2nd year, and 6 figure jobs by graduation. There’s no “purity” in it, especially not at the lucrative level. People are going to college, often under scholarship, to line up for big money jobs. If any of them should pay it back ALL of them pay it back.


67 posted on 09/25/2024 12:57:01 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: volare737

SEMI-professional football players...
They ought to shoot big time money college football in the head and let it die.

How could any alumni root for a team of mostly non-serious students(employees) just because they wear a schools color for one year? For spectators, games are just an excuse to pig out and get drunk.


68 posted on 09/25/2024 1:20:12 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: srmanuel

College athlete classes...

Rocks for Jocks....geology
French for Jacques....French languages
Stocks for Jocks....Business investment

Coupla’ years ago ..some future NFL players from UCLA were being interviewed by in house university sports info. network ...the players were talking about some of the classes they were taking...Croatian, and Russian languages..
It’s a big joke...


69 posted on 09/25/2024 1:29:58 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: discostu
People at big dog law firms are going to make more money than athletes over the course of their career.

Patrick Mahomes signed a 10 year , $450,000,000 contract with the Kansas City Chiefs, including $10,000,000 signing bonus, $141,481,905 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $45,000,000.

Show me one ivy league law school grad who makes that kind of money out of college, let alone over their life time........Nice try tho

70 posted on 09/25/2024 3:09:58 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: discostu
As a follow up, do you actually think that Patrick Mahomes went to Texas Tech for the education?

And I will repeat myself, How many Harvard law school grads gave up working for a big name law firm and are playing in the NFL or NBA today?

71 posted on 09/25/2024 3:17:33 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: discostu

And here’s a bonus question for you: Do you think that Mahomes goal for college was to get a law degree and a future job with a high powered law firm or a lucrative contract playing football?.....LOL!


72 posted on 09/25/2024 3:25:33 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Getready
Exactly. Just call it what it is,,,,“CPF”,,,,”College-sponsored Professional Football”!

I remember when a player made a great play, the announcer might mention his major and GPA. Now they only mention what school he transferred from. To call them amateur athletes or student athletes is an big insult to any student that really is!

Heck, Arch Manning for Texas made $3.5 million in NIL before he played one play. Of course, his name jacked that amount up.

It is a big joke now. Yet the fans still pack the stadiums— as you said, just because of the colors the players happen to be wearing at the time. It proves this country has an absolutely insatiable appetite to be entertained.

73 posted on 09/25/2024 3:40:39 PM PDT by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: volare737

It’s rooting for laundry.

You might be rooting against those same players next season.


74 posted on 09/25/2024 3:41:28 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Exactly, and that actually does happen now!


75 posted on 09/25/2024 3:42:34 PM PDT by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: Round Earther

Massive Mistake to go to the SEC. OU has zero history with the SEC. Big 10 maybe but not the SEC.


76 posted on 09/25/2024 3:50:05 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Hot Tabasco

You want one ivy league grad making that kind of money. Easy. Mark Zuckerberg.

Of course then there’s the fact you picked one of the highest paid players in the league. Most NFL players make about a million a year, and their career only lasts 3 years.

So your questions, much like your whole position, are false, and just generally full of crap.

The fact is college sports is a multi-BILLION dollar industry, and the schools make many more times the free tuition they hold over the students’ heads. And they should have been paying the athletes, the people that risk life altering injury every single game, for decades. It is criminal and evil they didn’t do that, and supporting that is wrong headed.


77 posted on 09/25/2024 6:37:59 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: srmanuel

College semi pro sports is a joke. Like pro sports, I have no interest in it anymore.


78 posted on 09/25/2024 7:23:29 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Getready

There is some of that going on but for the overwhelming majority of student athletes that’s not the case besides those classes have a bunch of regular students in them they aren’t exclusively athletes

I’ve posted the graph showing around 90% of football players end up getting degrees across all universities in the NCAA, sure some schools just do enough to keep players eligible but most do not


79 posted on 09/25/2024 9:26:51 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: srmanuel

If he continued to play, he’d use up all his eligibility. He can transfer and get another year. He’s the 27th rated QB based on QBR. He won’t have a problem finding another school. Another school will understand He is getting screwed and won’t hold it against him.

Maybe UNLV overplayed their hand and Will come through with the promised money.


80 posted on 09/26/2024 9:23:57 AM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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