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Man in custody after Trump golf club incident was once convicted of possessing a machine gun
NBC News ^ | September 16, 2024 | Dennis Romero

Posted on 09/16/2024 5:23:39 AM PDT by Red Badger

The man in custody in connection with what is being described as a second attempt to assassinate former President Donald Trump was vocal about U.S. support for Ukraine and has a long criminal and civil court history, including a conviction for possessing a machine gun.

Ryan Wesley Routh, 58, was taken into custody after Secret Service agents fired shots at him at Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach, Florida, on Sunday, three senior law enforcement sources said. In 2002, court records show, he was convicted of possessing a weapon of mass destruction — a machine gun.

In that case, a man named Ryan Routh, 36 at the time, allegedly led authorities on a vehicle chase before he holed up at a roofing company in Greensboro, North Carolina, according to an account by the Greensboro News & Record.

A person named Ryan Routh resided for decades in North Carolina, property records show. Most recently, a Ryan Routh lived in the small coastal community of Kaaawa on Oahu’s eastern shore in Hawaii. Authorities there did not immediately respond to an inquiry about any possible contacts with Routh.

After the 2002 arrest, authorities said they found the suspect in possession of a fully automatic machine gun, according to the Greensboro News & Record. The arrest coincides with North Carolina criminal court records that include Routh's conviction for possession of a weapon of mass destruction.

Records also show convictions for carrying a concealed weapon, possession of stolen property and hit-and-run. In those cases, which included misdemeanor convictions for violations such as resisting an officer and driving on a suspended license, the defendant received a suspended sentence and parole or probation.

There is no record of time spent in state prison related to those cases in the early 2000s.

Court records show more than 100 criminal counts have been filed against Ryan Routh in North Carolina, most in Guilford County, which underlies Greensboro. The exact outcome of each case was not immediately clear.

The court records for a person named Ryan Routh also show a 2003 divorce, as well as multiple civil judgments after contractors and individuals sued a roofing company he helped run.

Routh told the publication Semafor last year that he was director of a group he called International Volunteer Center as part of his attempts to support Ukraine's war against Russia.

Routh spoke of his frustration with Ukraine over what he said were roadblocks to admitting foreign fighters, including Afghan commandos, who either volunteered or were available to join Ukraine's war effort.

“Ukraine is very often hard to work with," he told Semafor. "They’re afraid that anybody and everybody is a Russian spy."

In an interview with Newsweek in 2022, Routh said he was 56 at the time and that he was from North Carolina and had flown to Ukraine from Hawaii. He complained about U.S. leadership as it related to Ukraine and urged greater support for the country from the U.S. government.

"This conflict is definitely black and white," he said. "This is about good versus evil."

Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, after Trump's term in the White House. Trump has promoted a debunked conspiracy theory that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election and has refused to say whether he wants Ukraine to win its war against Russia. He has also expressed admiration for Russian President Vladimir Putin.

There was no immediate indication that Trump's stance on Ukraine motivated Routh's alleged actions Sunday.

It also appears Routh, while he was living in Hawaii, made several small contributions to the Democratic fundraising platform ActBlue, including 19 payments in 2019 and 2020 in amounts from $1 to $25, according to Federal Election Commission records. ActBlue did not immediately respond Sunday night to an emailed request for comment about the donations.

On Sunday, Palm Beach County State’s Attorney Dave Aronberg told MSNBC that the federal government is taking over prosecution in the West Palm Beach case, with the U.S. Justice Department expected to file any charges.

He argued that a defendant would not have to open fire for the case to include a charge of attempted assassination.

Aronberg said it was his understanding that Routh was “lying in wait” for Trump before Secret Service agents spotted him. Routh had aimed at the agent who fired at him, Aronberg said; the exact chronology of what took place is still unclear.

Routh was “pretty quiet” and “pretty compliant” after a Martin County sheriff’s traffic unit took him into custody on Interstate 95 one county to the north of Palm Beach, Aronberg said.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: banglist; routh; ukraine; zeeperassassin; zeepwarmustcontinue
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To: Red Badger

It seems Routh did not serve any prison times for these multiple felony charges.

I think this is when the CIA recruited him and helped him serve no prison time.

Read his writing, he is a proponent of every CIA led coup around the world.


21 posted on 09/16/2024 6:08:49 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: Trinity5

The machine gun is one of many things that all together add up to suspicion of some organization keeping him on the street.


22 posted on 09/16/2024 6:25:24 AM PDT by Pontiac (esse welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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23 posted on 09/16/2024 6:26:15 AM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Red Badger

Notice how the left went from anti-war “Cheney is a war criminal” to loving Cheney and advocating pro-war “the US needs to attack Russia”?


24 posted on 09/16/2024 6:26:56 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: rarestia

I got to fire a legally owned Thompson once. My friend’s FIL was a big collector. It was quite an experience.


25 posted on 09/16/2024 6:33:35 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: rarestia

It’s also a state issue, and they are illegal in many states. I don’t know about NC in 2002, but I’d presume those were state charges. Either there wasn’t a felony conviction in those 100 charges filed, or this gun was bought illegally.


26 posted on 09/16/2024 6:38:54 AM PDT by SJackson (Lot of people put my grandpa through hell, and he’s still standing, Kai Trump)
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To: rarestia
Machine guns are not illegal...require a tax stamp

The tax stamp / license is very difficult to get, or so I've heard. It's not like the ATF 4 form, for purchasing a silencer, that I've seen at many gun stores.

27 posted on 09/16/2024 6:40:49 AM PDT by LuxAerterna
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

“the defendant received a suspended sentence and parole or probation.

There is no record of time spent in state prison related to those cases in the early 2000s.”

Appears to be someone’s asset.


28 posted on 09/16/2024 6:45:22 AM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers! Remember the J6 political prisoners!)
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To: Pontiac

It appears so.


29 posted on 09/16/2024 6:47:39 AM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers! Remember the J6 political prisoners!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

We’ve always been at war with Eastasia, Winston.” - George Orwell, 1984


30 posted on 09/16/2024 6:50:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: twister881

Bingo


31 posted on 09/16/2024 7:02:37 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: rarestia
"Machine guns are not illegal. Select fire rifles are prohibitively expensive and require a tax stamp, but they aren’t illegal."

You are correct. I assume the machine gun, if there actually was one, was in his possession without the tax stamp and required paperwork. I think this story is BS. I can't imagine a guy with this kind of police record actually getting the approval from a routine background check and then pay the tax. In my area, he would not pass a background check to purchase a hand gun. The machine gun was likely black market and unregistered.

32 posted on 09/16/2024 7:20:59 AM PDT by mosaicwolf
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To: chopperk

That’s a question that should be asked and answered but it isn’t a question govt wants asked or answered, so....

Move along citizen


33 posted on 09/16/2024 7:21:55 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: Hot Tabasco

in the mid 2000s, sten parts kits were available for as little as $25 from vendors in shotgun news. It wouldn’t be very hard for anyone with even modest metal working skills to have built a live firing one


34 posted on 09/16/2024 7:31:32 AM PDT by Jeff Vader ( )
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To: LuxAerterna

no, it’s the exact same process as buying a silencer. fill out form 4 send $200 and wait


35 posted on 09/16/2024 7:39:39 AM PDT by Jeff Vader ( )
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
chopperk ~ Who provided Routh with Trump’s itinerary?

Empire_of_Liberty ~ Whoever they are, I don’t think that they are going to rely on this crazy guy’s silence.

I foresee an Epstein event in his near future...

36 posted on 09/16/2024 7:58:19 AM PDT by null and void (Don't hallucinate and legislate, don't hallucinate and educate, don't hallucinate and procreate)
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To: Jeff Vader
no, it’s the exact same process as buying a silencer. fill out form 4 send $200 and wait

Okay, I was mistaken. I personally have never been through the ATF 4 process. I've seen though that it's exclusively promoted, at least at the gun shops I've visited, for purchasing a silencer.

Is it that gun shops are leary of doing this for an automatic weapon? Or that they don't have an FFL for such weapons? Or that these ATF 4 requests have a high disapproval rate?

37 posted on 09/16/2024 8:06:01 AM PDT by LuxAerterna
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To: LuxAerterna

it’s supply and demand. The supply of transferable machine guns has been fixed since 1986 and no new guns have been allowed on the registry since then. Silencers, SBR and SBS are being made new every say


38 posted on 09/16/2024 8:15:41 AM PDT by Jeff Vader ( )
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To: Red Badger

H8s visa or debit transactions will show how long he parked along that fence. Clever. Obviously nobody is walking tge fence and looking through for matted grass...nor on the other sude, same. The guy likes to golf.

Don’t hire the busted SEAL in venezuela....maybe they don’t teach such thibgs anymore...but....could tgey hire an old retired guy who would have taught the local agents these facts? Don’t ask me, I’m an idiot, like this loon, but that’s all it rakes...twice now.

Oswald was a loon, a simple loon. That’s all it took for Lincoln too. Jeesh.


39 posted on 09/16/2024 8:21:23 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: LuxAerterna

You have to get a local LE (either Chief of Police, or County Sheriff) sign off that you have clean record,and also send in FBI print cards. Full autos are available, but have previous posts have stated, no new ones have been made since 86. Last time I checked (few years ago) the cheapest ones were $2000 - $3000 Mac-10 and Mac-11, ARs were $8000-$10000 something like a Thompson were $25000 and up


40 posted on 09/16/2024 9:08:05 AM PDT by E.Allen
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