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Military Can’t Ban All Americans With HIV From Joining
POZ.com ^ | August 22, 2024 | Laura Schmidt

Posted on 08/24/2024 6:19:43 AM PDT by fwdude

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To: GMThrust

We used to joke about getting The Purple Shaft, with 13 barbed wire clusters.


21 posted on 08/24/2024 9:08:41 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: fwdude

So medics in the field are now going to have to worry about getting AIDS from a peter puffer outside of all the other risks they take, huh?
Sick heifers.


22 posted on 08/24/2024 9:24:01 AM PDT by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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To: fwdude

Military should ban:

Trans / GAY / Lesbian
HIV
Monkeypox
and any other gay-transmitted STD carrier


23 posted on 08/24/2024 9:36:19 AM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: odawg

Judge is a woman. A Clinton appointee.


24 posted on 08/24/2024 9:49:51 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude; All

The language here is highly Orwellian and so irrational as to defy logic, so let me explain.

HIV infection is the latent disease of AIDS, if controlled with meds. The false narrative is that the disease is “nothing” if it is controlled to undetectable levels in the individual. But the basic presumption promoted is that undetectability is a static, permanent condition - once “undetectable” you’re all good. But the truth in reality is that one’s disease status most likely in flux. Most infected individuals become detectable at various times throughout infection, through carelessness in their med protocol, drug resistance of the virus developing, or contracting another HIV variant through perverted sexual practices, which are now allowed with impunity as a “right” which must be catered to.

“Undetectability” is not a durable assessment and is only valid in the moments after a blood test. Testing for such high-risk individuals is only done quarterly at most, allowing for a 3-month period during which an infected person’s status could be anyone’s guess.

This is like a diabetic (now a disqualifying condition) demanding to be allowed to enlist because his blood glucose levels are under control today.


25 posted on 08/24/2024 10:10:25 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

The Navy’s policy , way back in 1990 was the HIV + sailors had to be stationed ashore near a Naval Hospital. Naval Station Norfolk was one of the dumping grounds for them.


26 posted on 08/24/2024 10:17:40 AM PDT by OldHarbor (strained statutory arguments, appeals to inconsistent history, reliance on out-of-circuit authority)
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To: fwdude

Judicial overreach.


27 posted on 08/24/2024 10:45:05 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: fwdude

In a major war the systems will be breaking down, the luxury meds for HIV patients and surgery weakened trans people won’t be there and clerks and techs will be fighting paratroops and penetrators and dealing with constant barrages and missile attacks, and air strikes.

Korea and Vietnam demonstrated major warfare with systems stretched and we weren’t even fighting the full forces of Russia and/or today’s China, the military is basing it’s enlisting on a peacetime/policing fantasy where things are orderly and the combat zone and support zones are completely separate, and everything is properly handled and the system is operating smoothly.

People need to look at those Vietnam photos of our skinny troops in rotting clothes living on canned peaches, cigarettes and adrenaline and realize that the military doesn’t have the luxury of placing these bizarre, even deadly infectious boutique medical disabilities among the troops.


28 posted on 08/24/2024 11:07:41 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Salman
The sensible approach would be an HIV test as a routine part of the induction physical. Also prohibit homosexuals from joining as was the case since forever until it wasn't any more.

How about a negative HIV test as a condition of any promotion?

29 posted on 08/24/2024 11:10:03 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: fwdude

Maintaining an undetectable viral load requires medication. How are they supposed to get that if they’re dumped in a foreign country in combat? Are they relegated to non-combat duties? I know that if I were a medic, I would NOT want to risk it.


30 posted on 08/24/2024 11:12:45 AM PDT by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: ansel12

The last President with any serious military experience was George H. W. Bush.

The last President with any sort of military experience at all was George W. Bush.

Correlation doesn’t necessarily mean causation, but it does suggest further investigation.

If Mr. Trump really wants to make American great again, he’ll pay a lot of attention to the advice of his Vice President.


31 posted on 08/24/2024 11:14:47 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: OldHarbor
The Navy’s policy , way back in 1990 was the HIV + sailors had to be stationed ashore near a Naval Hospital. Naval Station Norfolk was one of the dumping grounds for them.

When I enlisted in the summer of 1961 we were given a medical questionnaire to fill out. It listed a great number of illnesses and conditions to which we had to check off yes or no. One of the items was "homosexual tendencies".

32 posted on 08/24/2024 11:17:11 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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To: fwdude

You might want to check to see who you’re sharing a foxhole with.


33 posted on 08/24/2024 11:34:55 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Banana Voo Doo Queen is putting illegal scumbags on a Free Ride on the American Dream Express.)
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To: fwdude; woodpusher
wrote Judge Leonie Brinkema

Appointed by Bill Clinton. *THAT* is the only thing you need to know. If it is a Clinton, Obama or Biden appointee, the judge will *ALWAYS* put out the wrong answer.

With Bush 1 and Bush 2 and Reagan appointees, they sometimes get it right.

34 posted on 08/24/2024 11:49:30 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: NorthMountain
How about a negative HIV test as a condition of any promotion?

I gotta admit, this is all very hypothetical. It isn't "our" military any more.

35 posted on 08/24/2024 12:21:02 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: scrabblehack
--- "undetectable viral load....so any test would show no signs of the virus???"

That is the game. One recalls at the beginning of the Fauci/WHO pandemic, Tedros advised "test, test, test." And his forecast of 3+% morality rate over one year has become a ~ 0.09% mortality rate over almost four full years. But a lot of tests were sold....

What we are seeing is the potential spreading of HIV via blood donation from gay men, with clear recollection that Fauci was deeply involved in that time, as in the most recent, as he gets three infections after "safe and effective" and now West Nile. Trust in government is not advised.

36 posted on 08/24/2024 12:54:54 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: TokarevM57

Another thing that’s not mentioned either is that in combat operations, such as an Iraq Afghanistan, it’s actually routine common and expected for soldiers to donate blood to the aid station for life-saving reasons. For example, when I was in Ramadi in 2006 and I was on the fob, they would have medics run through the chow hall calling for everybody with typo or some other blood type to report to the station to donate a soldier or marine was bleeding out needed it. Now I guess they would run through and say everybody would typo report to the aid station unless you have HIV . Stupid


37 posted on 08/24/2024 2:30:00 PM PDT by suasponte137
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To: fwdude

Do I need to send a message/email/letter to Rand Paul, informing him that HIV infection causes its infected to prematurely age 14 years, even while taking PrEP? This is a danger to anyone exposed. To look up more articles on this, check FR keyword hivacceleratedaging.


38 posted on 08/24/2024 3:19:25 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: Tacrolimus1mg

I keep repeating this info, but HIV infection causes its infected to prematurely age 14 years, even when PrEP is taken. Resultant diseases include cancers and kidney diseases and HAND - HIV associated Neurological Diseases. Plus, premature death. I wish I knew how to contact Rand Paul to inform him. To learn more, check FR keyword hivacceleratedaging.


39 posted on 08/24/2024 10:08:35 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time; scrabblehack

Homosexuals would love nothing more than to spread their disease widespread across the populace, at the same proportions as it affects them. Just a long as they can escape blame for it.


40 posted on 08/28/2024 5:56:36 AM PDT by fwdude
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