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‘Biden Is Toast’: Politico Sad-Sacks Over Disastrous Biden Debate Performance
Newsbusters ^ | June 29, 2024 | P.J. Gladnick

Posted on 06/29/2024 3:11:18 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

When you see 'Biden Is Toast' in a Politico headline, you know things are really, really bad for Joe Biden. That line was part of a title of a story in that periodical about Biden's disastrous debate performance on Thursday which was originally published fifteen minutes before that event was even completed: "Dems freak out over Biden’s debate performance: ‘Biden is toast’."

Lisa Kashinsky, Adam Cancryn, and Eugene Daniels, acting more like coroners providing a Biden campaign autopsy than as Politico reporters, had the sad task of laying out the brutal facts for the bereaved Democrats and their media allies.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...


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All these media outlets, including Morning Joe, are soon going to have to furiously backpedal and pretend again that this version of Joe Biden is the BEST version of Joe Biden ever! This will happen right after they discover that switching Biden out for another candidate at the convention is basically impossible without Biden's (and especially DOCTOR Jill's) cooperation
1 posted on 06/29/2024 3:11:18 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix

*silver alert* *silver alert*

A dementia patent who was last seen at a debate is on the loose! If you see him, don’t approach, he is a danger to himself and others, and may have explosive diarrhea


2 posted on 06/29/2024 3:17:02 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: PJ-Comix

This is where Democrats are the most dangerous. They are like cornered rats and will do anything, ANYTHING to keep their sock puppetin power.


3 posted on 06/29/2024 3:19:47 PM PDT by RedMonqey (This is no longer America but "Amerika"!)
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To: All

axios.com

Behind the Curtain: a handful, a Biden oligarchy, will decide fate

Forget the pundits. Ignore New York Times editorials and columnists. Tune out people popping off on X. The only way President Biden steps aside, despite his debate debacle, is if the same small group of lifelong loyalists who enabled his run suddenly — and shockingly — decides it’s time for him to call it quits. Jill Biden; his younger sister, Valerie Biden; and 85-year-old Ted Kaufman, the president’s longtime friend and constant adviser — plus a small band of White House advisers — are the only Biden deciders. This decades-long kitchen cabinet operates as an extended family, council of elders and governing oligarchy. These allies alone hold sway over decisions big and small in Biden’s life and presidency.

The president engaged in no organized process outside his family in deciding to run for a second term, the N.Y. Times’ Peter Baker reports. Then Biden alone made the decision, people close to him tell us.If Biden stays in, it’s for the same reason he deci ded to run again: He and the oligarchy believe he has a much better chance of beating former President Trump than Vice President Harris does.

Biden allies have played out the scenarios and see little chance of anyone besides Harris winning the nomination if he stepped aside. Is the Democratic Party going to deny the nomination to the first woman, the first Black American, and the first South Asian American to be elected V.P.? Hard to see. These allies privately think Harris would struggle to pull moderate and swing voters, and would enhance Trump’s chances. (Harris “fares only one or two points worse than Biden in polls with margins of sampling error that are much larger than that,” The Washington Post found.) We’re told Democratic congressional leaders are one outside force that could bring pressure on Biden.

They’re getting calls and texts from panicked lawmakers who fear Biden’s weakness could cost the party House and Senate seats in November. “This is no longer about Joe Biden’s family or his emotions,” said an adviser in constant touch with the West Wing. “This is about our country. It’s an utter f***ing disaster that has to be addressed.” It’ll take a while for the oligarchy to process the stakes, this adviser argued, “but there will be a reckoning.” Biden insiders are already finding it easier than many realized to rationalize staying in. They argue: Yes, he had a poor debate performance. But Biden also can dial up vigorous appearances like he did in Raleigh on Friday afternoon. That behind-the-scenes juxtaposition plays out daily: Sometimes he’s on his game, sharper than people would think, and quicker on his feet. But often it’s the Biden you saw on the debate stage: tired, slow, halting. Top Democrats saw what America saw live, on national TV, vividly and unforgettably. They can’t unsee it. And they fear voters won’t unsee it.

No longer can they blame critics or edited footage or media exaggeration. Every misstep, verbal hiccup or frozen face will zip across social media and TV, reminding voters Biden will be 86 years old at the end of his second term. “They need to tell him the absolute truth about where he is,” said a well-known Democrat who often talks to the president. “Loyalty doesn’t mean blind loyalty.” “Candidates for House, Senate, governor, state legislature are going to be in survival mode,” the well-known Democrat added. “They’re not going to go down with the ship. And the ship is in a bad place.” Some Biden family members are digging in — squinting at overnight polls for signs that undecided voters moved Biden’s way because of Trump statements at the debate.

“They know it was a disaster,” said a source close to the family. “But they think there’s a glimmer of survival/hope.” In a Biden campaign memo, “Independent Voters Move to Biden in Debate,” officials wrote: “Based on research we conducted during [the] debate, it is clear that the more voters heard from Donald Trump, the more they remembered why they dislike him.” Biden — bolstered by a tweet from former President Obama (”Bad debate nights happen. Trust me, I know”) — sounds like he wants to stick it out. “When you get knocked down, you get back up,” Biden said to applause, reading from a teleprompter during a rally Friday at the North Carolina State Fairgrounds. “Folks, I don’t walk as easy as I used to. I don’t speak as smoothly as I used to. I don’t debate as well as I used to. But ... I know how to tell the truth.” The public backing of former presidents and current members of Congress says little about Biden’s future. Most know him too well and for too long to humiliate him in public. Instead, if he decides to go, it’ll follow private conversations with them — then a decision with this oligarchy. Remember, it’s under eight weeks until Biden is ratified as the official nominee. That’s the clock to watch.

James Carville — the “Ragin’ Cajun” who masterminded Bill Clinton’s first presidential campaign in 1992, and now is a frequent TV pundit — will be 80 in October. He told us that if he appeared like Biden did during the debate, he’d want to be pulled off the tube. “I never thought this was a nifty idea,” Carville said of Biden’s run. He said there are few people the president really listens to: “He doesn’t have advisers. He has employees.” When we pressed Carville on whether he thinks Biden will be off the ticket by Election Day, he said he thinks so. He invoked a famous quote by the late economist Herb Stein, which Carville paraphrased as: “That which can’t continue … won’t.”


4 posted on 06/29/2024 3:23:59 PM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name . )
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To: PJ-Comix

These lying bastards have known about Biden’s loss of cognitive Issues sine 2019 when the entire world knew. For them to act shocked know is total BS. They hoped to get this MFer over the November line with the aid of the media. It maybe God’s will now in action as he has made it very clear that the Jewish people and State must not be messed with.


5 posted on 06/29/2024 3:25:34 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: PJ-Comix

1) The media has see-sawed a little bit on this, but they seem to be back to the idea that Joe is hopeless. He’s a potato. Unfit for office. So bad, you just can’t vote for him.

2) Joe and Jill seem determined to stick this out. No intention of withdrawing or stepping down. He won’t leave.

Option #1) Massive landslide for Trump and all down-ticket Republicans as everyone on the Left just gives up.

Option #2) Since Joe won’t step down, the Democrats find — hrrrmpff — another way to open a slot on their presidential ticket in hopes of getting a candidate who isn’t a disaster. Desperate times call for desperate measures.


6 posted on 06/29/2024 3:34:07 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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To: PJ-Comix

Amazing democrats are just now seeing this. He’s been that way for 4 years.


7 posted on 06/29/2024 3:35:25 PM PDT by boycott
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The MSM and left wing lamentations about BiteME Joe's performance at the "debate" ( political execution ), or lack there of, is fake. The "debate" was a staged coup d'état of Biden. Again, this was all planned. Even the MSM reaction.

The only ones not in on it were the WH staff and the Bidens themselves. Joe will step aside, it is taking time for his brain to digest waht happened, but he is done.

8 posted on 06/29/2024 3:35:57 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: boycott

They knew. Joe was supposed to be a heroic one-termer. The tamer of the orange bad man. Much to their chagrin Joe isn’t cooperating. Why? Because if he steps down he may be prosecuted and the grift will be over. Jill the Shill will have none of it.


9 posted on 06/29/2024 3:39:06 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: PJ-Comix
A snap poll was taken of independent voters immediately after Thursday night's debate.

Here is a link to the poll's raw data:

J.L. Partners Post-Debate Poll of Independent Voters

Here are some interesting nuggets in this poll:

Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?

Analysis: President Trump was going to lose 21% of his 2020 Independent voters. Biden was going to lose 36% of his 2020 Independent voters.


Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?

Analysis: President Trump regained 5% of his 2020 Independent voters AND picked up 2% of 2020 Biden voters. Biden lost an additional 8% of his 2020 Independent voters.


About the African-American Independent vote:

Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?

Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?

Analysis: President Trump picked up 11% of the Independent black vote. Biden lost 4% of the Independent black vote.


About Independent Women voters:

Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?

Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?

Analysis: President Trump picked up 2% of the Independent female vote. Biden lost 2% of the Independent female vote.


About Independent Young (18-29) voters:

Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?

Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?

Analysis: President Trump picked up 3% of the Independent young vote. Biden lost 3% of the Independent young vote.


About Independent Senior (65+) voters:

Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?

Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?

Analysis: Seniors are the only Independent voting bloc where Trump is not doing well, losing 2% after the debate to Biden losing only 1%. Seniors moved to RFK, Jr. by 6% after the debate.

An interesting side note is that seniors are not interested in alternative parties.


Conclusion: President Trump picked up votes in all major demographics except the senior voters.

-PJ

10 posted on 06/29/2024 3:42:09 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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Expect something vaguely similar to this:

The Joe that you see at campaign events and fundraisers is Joe as he normally is.

The young and eager people that were there to help him pushed the old man too hard.

Joe is like a lawnmower when the gas tank is running low. They both sputter. The lawnmower will be fine once it cools down and gets refilled with gas.

Joe will take it easy to let his brain ‘recharge’ in the coming days. Jill will see to it that Joe isn’t pushed too hard from now on.


11 posted on 06/29/2024 3:43:18 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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The young and eager people that were there to help him pushed the old man too hard. Joe is like a lawnmower when the gas tank is running low. They both sputter. The lawnmower will be fine once it cools down and gets refilled with gas.

The most he can do right now is to read off the teleprompter. He's not capable of much else.

I would have figured that the Biden team would have done a "stress test" with by hosting a mock debate. If he had failed it and he was not up to the task, they should have called off the debate with Donald Trump.

All they had to do was to say that Biden refuses to debate felons.

12 posted on 06/29/2024 3:46:33 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: central_va

The rats are screwed. Pick any replacement now and tell me how he or she will garner more than 30% of the vote. Pick Newsome and those that want Hillary or Whitmer will stay home. Those that want Harris will not vote for anyone else and will be fuming for years to come. Make Harris the candidate and her low IQ answers would be a constant joke for the late night comedians. Very few would donate to her campaign as the polls emerge with Trump ahead by 10. The only way for the democrats to have a shot would be to pick Kennedy or a non-political cat that is well respected.


13 posted on 06/29/2024 3:50:54 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: ClearCase_guy
the Democrats find — hrrrmpff — another way

Say, if an accident would befall both Joe and Kamala in the same place at the same time?

14 posted on 06/29/2024 3:54:07 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: PJ-Comix

This leads to an interesting situation. In order to appear that he is not feeble, Biden will have to give more public talks. And, of course, the more he talks, the worse he looks.


15 posted on 06/29/2024 3:58:16 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Political Junkie Too

“On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

“Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right.”

“Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”

“He [Warren G. Harding] writes the worst English that I have ever encountered. It reminds me of a string of wet sponges; it reminds me of tattered washing on the line; it reminds me of stale bean soup, of college yells, of dogs barking idiotically through endless nights. It is so bad that a sort of grandeur creeps into it. It drags itself out of the dark abysm of pish, and crawls insanely up the topmost pinnacle of posh. It is rumble and bumble. It is flap and doodle. It is balder and dash”

H. L. Mencken

“Democracy is a device that insures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.”

-George Bernard Shaw

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/3ys0xv/til_h_l_mencken_when_writing_about_the_us/?rdt=45417


16 posted on 06/29/2024 3:58:49 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MinorityRepublican

“The most he can do right now is to read off the teleprompter. He’s not capable of much else.”

You could have accurately said that four years ago.


17 posted on 06/29/2024 4:03:50 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Kahuna
Careful what you wish for. How a replacement will do is a big unknown. Many, many fellow Americans are shallow novelty seekers. They will even eat Tide pods.

18 posted on 06/29/2024 4:07:26 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Kahuna

“those that want Hillary or Whitmer”

“Those that want Harris”

About the same number of people that want Spam on July 4th.

What Democratic voters want are ‘freebies’.

Any ‘honky’ or ‘Oreo cookie’ that will keep the gravy train running will suffice.


19 posted on 06/29/2024 4:15:09 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Harris is in the way. The Democrats will replace Biden today if they are able to. But Harris won’t let them do that.


20 posted on 06/29/2024 4:15:30 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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