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1 posted on 06/28/2024 9:44:16 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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Why would he be going into a 2024 vehicle?


2 posted on 06/28/2024 9:45:47 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Enlightened1

Is this worldwide or just US automakers?


3 posted on 06/28/2024 9:46:05 AM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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All the dealers recently had an outage


4 posted on 06/28/2024 9:46:32 AM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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You don’t own your car. You don’t own your house.


5 posted on 06/28/2024 9:46:33 AM PDT by libh8er
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Anyone that buys a car that must be serviced at the dealer is an idiot and a sucker. Do not buy Dodge.

Used car prices are going to go through the roof because of this creepy, abusive, anticompetitive behavior.


6 posted on 06/28/2024 9:46:54 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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Still driving our 2005 Honda Odessey w/ 225,000+ miles. Nothing out there excites me to buy new. It’s like the late 70’s again for automobiles. Come to think of it, Biden’s like Carter too.


8 posted on 06/28/2024 9:48:47 AM PDT by stevio (Fight until you die.)
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Nothing terribly new here. Car makers have always been fond of finding ways to push people to their mechanics, or charge other mechanics a boat load of money. I remember the infamous Ford Wrench in the 90s, there was a bolt you had to get to when changing the timing belt, it was in a really bad spot, basically impossible, unless you bought Ford’s “special wrench” for like $500.


9 posted on 06/28/2024 9:49:30 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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Why stands out is a 2024 vehicle is already needing to go to a mechanic. My Thorty year old Honda has only gone in for the usual consumables, brakes, belts, stuff like that.


10 posted on 06/28/2024 9:49:51 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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I changed out a 12v battery. Then I ‘needed’ to update the battery monitor module (or some such). Which was a trip to the Ford dealer, to run the Ford software - $$$$.


12 posted on 06/28/2024 9:54:17 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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which is one of many reasons i don’t buy new cars.


14 posted on 06/28/2024 9:57:09 AM PDT by dadfly
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Stop buying their crap.


15 posted on 06/28/2024 9:58:34 AM PDT by right way right (“May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope”)
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This is all due to cybersecurity concerns and regulation requiring it. All of the Advanced Driver Assist Systems (ADAS) are dangerous if compromised.

The EU has the U.N. R155 regulation, everything must have cybersecurity protection.


16 posted on 06/28/2024 10:01:13 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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Big Anything is the enemy. Sorry, it’s true. Wake up, America/World.

Size matters.


19 posted on 06/28/2024 10:05:16 AM PDT by xoxox
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Our local Ford dealer had to close up shop a couple months ago. Have heard this is the reason.


20 posted on 06/28/2024 10:08:26 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Navarro didn't kill himself.)
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Once again, I say:

Die, corporate scum!


21 posted on 06/28/2024 10:09:22 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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Everybody is a terrorist and that extortion is “for the safety of the children”.


24 posted on 06/28/2024 10:23:57 AM PDT by glorgau
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Right to Repair...


25 posted on 06/28/2024 10:26:55 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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The automobile manufacturers don’t want the small, independent shops out of business but they do want them relegated to older vehicles.


26 posted on 06/28/2024 10:27:38 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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I’ve thought for some time that the main objective of supplying mechanical/electronic specs for these newer cars is mostly the price of subscription.


31 posted on 06/28/2024 10:46:14 PM PDT by oldtech
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