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Should Trump Choose J.D. Vance As His VP?
Red State ^ | 06/24/2024 | Levon Satamian

Posted on 06/24/2024 9:38:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

As former President Donald Trump prepares to announce his Vice Presidential pick at the Republican National Committee Convention, there are a couple of choices he could make that would improve his chances of winning.

One of those finalists to become Trump's VP is J.D. Vance. He is a military veteran and U.S. Senator from Ohio, embodies the values of the working class, and has a strong understanding of Trump's political vision. Vance's political acumen and alignment with Trump on key issues, such as foreign policy and border security, make him a strong candidate. Vance being on the ticket would bolster Trump's support in crucial Rust Belt states, such as Michigan and Wisconsin.

There are plenty of pros to choosing Vance as VP, and although Trump has said he won't announce his vice presidential pick until the Republican National Convention, it seems like Vance, Gov. Doug Burgum (R-ND), and Dr. Ben Carson are atop the list of finalists. But then again, Trump could surprise everybody and choose someone who has not been mentioned at all as a VP option.

Trump VP Odds

Doug Burgum 5/2
J.D. Vance 4/1
Ben Carson 4/1
Marco Rubio 6/1
Tim Scott 8/1
Byron Donalds 11/1
Elise Stefanik 14/1
Sarah H. Sanders 14/1
Tulsi Gabbard 20/1
Nikki Haley 22/1
Tom Cotton 25/1
Ron DeSantis 75/1
Candace Owens 200/1pic.twitter.com/BPmgY6XsxS— BetOnline (@BetOnline_ag) June 20, 2024

However, there are also some cons for Vance, not least of which would be leaving his Senate seat vacant and risking a Democrat winning that seat. There are also his negative comments about Trump in 2016, which the mainstream media could continue to hammer up until the November election. The reality is that many people opposed Trump as the GOP nominee back then, but things change. Several of those critics have come around, finding common ground on policies, and are on board for another four years of a Trump presidency. 

Trump mentioned Vance's comments in April of 2022:

"He's a guy that said some bad shit about me. He did. He did. But you know what? Every one of the others did also. In fact if I went by that standard I don't think I would have ever endorsed anybody in the country," said Trump introducing Vance. "Ultimately I put that aside." pic.twitter.com/Op5y41XmTC— Caleb Howe (@CalebHowe) April 23, 2022

They appear to have cleared the air and are on good terms, especially since Vance is one of the front-runners to become VP, and Vance is one of Trump's fiercest defenders when speaking to the media. 

Putting the cons aside, Vance is effective and a true believer in policy. At the end of the day, what matters is where a potential running mate stands on policy and, more importantly, that they don't waver on those policy stances. 

As noted above, Doug Burgum is considered a top contender and would also be a strong choice for Trump, but he could serve better in a cabinet position than VP. Dr. Ben Carson is still in the conversation as well. Frankly, any of the three would be a strong choice.

So, should Vance ultimately be picked as VP? It seems that many would want to keep all the Senate seats intact and not risk a Democrat winning another seat. However, Vance's military background, intelligence, unwavering policy stances, his time in the venture capital world, and Yale Law School degree make him a strong choice. I believe Vance should be the VP pick for the reasons listed above and because he can assist Trump in fundraising with non-traditional GOP donors. 

It's worth noting that Vance organized the Trump fundraiser with David Sacks in Silicon Valley earlier this month, which raked in $12 million. 




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KEYWORDS: 2024; jdvance; vp
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1 posted on 06/24/2024 9:38:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Vance is a good man.

1. S.4516 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
A bill to ensure equal protection of the law, to prevent racism in the Federal Government, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 06/12/2024) Cosponsors: (9)

3. S.4295 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Encampments or Endowments Act

4. S.4232 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Fixing Administrations Unethical Corrupt Influence Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 05/01/2024)

5. S.4122 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Continuous Skilled Nursing Quality Improvement Act of 2024
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 04/15/2024)

6. S.4045 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
East Palestine Health Impact Monitoring Act of 2024
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 03/21/2024)

7. S.3978 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
College Employment Accountability Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 03/19/2024) Cosponsors: (4)

8. S.3962 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Enhanced End-Use Monitoring Accountability Act of 2024
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 03/14/2024) Cosponsors: (0)

9. S.3945 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
A bill to restrict the Chinese Government from accessing United States capital markets and exchanges if it fails to comply with international laws relating to finance, trade, and commerce.
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 03/14/2024) Cosponsors: (0)

10. S.3944 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
William S. Knudsen Defense Remobilization Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 03/14/2024) Cosponsors: (4)

11. S.3915 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
No Community Development Block Grants for Sanctuary Cities Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 03/12/2024) Cosponsors: (1)

12. S.3903 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Ukraine Aid Transparency Act of 2024
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 03/11/2024) Cosponsors: (1)

13. S.3668 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
State Border Security Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 01/25/2024) Cosponsors: (0)

14. S.3638 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Dependent Controlled Substance Transparency Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 01/23/2024)

15. S.3516 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
A bill to impose a fee on certain remittance transfers to fund border security.
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 12/14/2023) Cosponsors: (0)

16. S.3514 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to increase the excise tax on net investment income of certain private colleges and universities.
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 12/14/2023)

17. S.3507 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 12804 Chillicothe Road in Chesterland, Ohio, as the “Sgt. Wolfgang Kyle Weninger Post Office Building”.
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 12/13/2023) Cosponsors: (1)

18. S.3483 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Consequences for Climate Vandals Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 12/13/2023) Cosponsors: (1)

19. S.3396 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
College Admissions Accountability Act of 2023
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 12/05/2023) Cosponsors: (5)

20. S.3048 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Fairness for Stay-at-Home Parents Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 10/17/2023) Cosponsors: (3)

21. S.3011 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Passport Sanity Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 10/04/2023) Cosponsors: (2)

22. S.2962 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Drive American Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 09/28/2023) Cosponsors: (0)

23. S.2856 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Safeguarding American Education From Foreign Control Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 09/20/2023) Cosponsors: (5)

24. S.2738 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Freedom to Breathe Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 09/07/2023) Cosponsors: (12)

25. S.2656 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Timely Departure Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 07/27/2023) Cosponsors: (0)

26. S.2497 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Bank Failure Prevention Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 07/26/2023) Cosponsors: (0)

27. S.2403 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Payroll Account Guarantee Act of 2023
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 07/20/2023) Cosponsors: (0)

28. S.2374 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
No Obamacare for Illegal Aliens Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 07/19/2023) Cosponsors: (3)

29. S.2357 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Protect Children’s Innocence Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 07/18/2023) Cosponsors: (2)

30. S.2335 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Financial Regulatory Accountability Act of 2023
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 07/18/2023) Cosponsors: (3)

31. S.2255 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
A bill to amend the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to clarify the meaning of the term “aggregate value” for purposes of the Presidential drawdown authority.
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 07/12/2023) Cosponsors: (1)

32. S.1670 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
TRICARE Fairness for National Guard and Reserve Retirees Act
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 05/18/2023) Cosponsors: (1)

33. S.1632 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
Compressed Gas Cylinder Safety and Oversight Improvements Act of 2023
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 05/17/2023) Cosponsors: (5)

34. S.1109 — 118th Congress (2023-2024)
English Language Unity Act of 2023
Sponsor: Vance, J. D. [Sen.-R-OH] (Introduced 03/30/2023) Cosponsors: (2)

Others on FR wrote:

“Vance is brilliant, quick on his feet and articulate. Burgum will not add one single vote across America, decent as he appears to be.”

“I’d go with Rubio or Scott. The others won’t add anything to the ticket. It’s more important to win than to get the right successor. Actually I think Tim Scott adds most to the ticket. He’d help in PA, and PA is the essential state to win. If Trump wins PA, then he wins.”


2 posted on 06/24/2024 9:48:41 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind
NO! Leave him in the Senate and let him actually accomplish something there. Besides Trump needs real allies in the Senate.

Sarah H. Sanders 14/1

Tulsi Gabbard 20/1

3 posted on 06/24/2024 9:58:22 PM PDT by Reno89519 (I'll go out on a limb: Trump & Gabbard 2024 or Trump & Sanders 2024)
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To: Brian Griffin

I really like Vance for many many reasons, especially because he came from an abusive family in poverty, which contradicts perception that Repubs are the party of rich people. Heard him speak recently. Alas, he says all the right things but his voice is very soft, and he basically lacks dynamism. Maybe that’s ok, but I want him to be stronger in that department. Learnable, if he realizes or someone tells him. Ramaswamy is an excellent speaker, handles hecklers brilliantly too, but I don’t think best or even good choice for veep.


4 posted on 06/24/2024 10:00:29 PM PDT by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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To: SeekAndFind

No. Leave him in the senate.


5 posted on 06/24/2024 10:00:43 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Vance is a smart guy, but kind of a dull speaker. That’s okay, as Trump has enough personality of his own that he doesn’t need to add anyone exciting to the ticket. I do think Vance would be a better VP than Pence was for the first term, though that’s a low bar.


6 posted on 06/24/2024 10:00:44 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: Brian Griffin

He needs time to get these actually passed. I don’t think any have passed.


7 posted on 06/24/2024 10:01:54 PM PDT by Reno89519 (I'll go out on a limb: Trump & Gabbard 2024 or Trump & Sanders 2024)
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To: Captainpaintball

I suspect 90% chance Trump will pick a woman, what will you then do?


9 posted on 06/24/2024 10:22:47 PM PDT by Reno89519 (I'll go out on a limb: Trump & Gabbard 2024 or Trump & Sanders 2024)
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To: Reno89519

Well, he may pick an in-betweener or two-fer (or whatever the term is).


10 posted on 06/24/2024 10:34:12 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi
in-betweener or two-fer

Can you please translate for me, I don't understand. Thanks!

11 posted on 06/24/2024 10:35:57 PM PDT by Reno89519 (I'll go out on a limb: Trump & Gabbard 2024 or Trump & Sanders 2024)
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To: Reno89519

Tranny


12 posted on 06/24/2024 10:40:01 PM PDT by Laslo Fripp (Does anybody proofread anymore?)
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To: Laslo Fripp

Ah, okay, thank you.


13 posted on 06/24/2024 10:41:09 PM PDT by Reno89519 (I'll go out on a limb: Trump & Gabbard 2024 or Trump & Sanders 2024)
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To: SeekAndFind

No.


14 posted on 06/24/2024 11:03:07 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind

US Constitution - Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution precludes Rubio from running for VP as a resident of the same state as Trump (FL), so unless he moves, which then puts his Senate seat in question, he’s out (also applies to DeSantis for the same two-from-the-same-state restriction)

That leaves, Vance, sharp but lacks the x factor, Burgum, who adds no fan base and is also lackluster, leaving IMO, Tim Scott as the best possible pick having both x factor, voter draw and pole positioning as the first Black President of the US in 4 years (not to mention a counterbalance to a challenge from TweetyBird Harris)


15 posted on 06/24/2024 11:18:32 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump -Vance sounds too much like Trump-Pence. Instant turnoff.


16 posted on 06/25/2024 12:09:53 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: SeekAndFind

When I examin this list the only one I trust is Ben Carson. Vance was a never-Trumper in 2016. But who among them is truly an America First that can carry that banner in 2028? I would support Don Jr. then.


17 posted on 06/25/2024 12:12:42 AM PDT by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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To: SeekAndFind
Burgum looks like a Larry Craig "toe tapper".

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

18 posted on 06/25/2024 12:19:03 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump/Ramaswamy in ‘24!


19 posted on 06/25/2024 12:20:23 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Rowdyone
I like Carson, but I'm praying he picks Vance because I don't want him representing me in the Senate. He's a phony from the word go; had his seat bought for him by Peter Thiel; knows almost nothing about macroeconomics or foreign policy, (20 years on the Left Coast doing venture capital is the only thing he does know). Supposedly pro-Trump, the first thing he did when he got to DC was to run to kiss McConnell's....ah....hinder. As veep he'd be in a position which is essentially powerless, where he can't do much damage, but the Dems would be afraid of him enough to not impeach Trump. MAYBE he'll learn enough to run for prexy in '28, but I won't hold my breath.
20 posted on 06/25/2024 1:21:33 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Your insults are my rocket fuel. More please!)
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