Yep. America Last. Americans Last.
All according to plan.
Posted on 06/11/2024 6:25:38 PM PDT by davikkm
Some hospitals and surgery centers are now requiring patients to pay upfront for surgeries. According to a recent report by the Wall Street Journal, this practice has become more common, with facilities refusing to perform surgery until they receive full payment. While this approach may allow patients to know the cost ahead of time and potentially shop around, it can be challenging for those who cannot afford unexpected medical bills. Approximately half of adults would be unable to pay a $500 medical bill in full without going into debt. As a result, many individuals must borrow the necessary funds to cover these upfront costs.
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Incredible - there was “something in the air” in 2008
I can’t describe it adequately - it was almost a surreal feeling - this was about mid-summer.
Little did I realize that all the warnings I had issued to people about the coming crash (fall of 2005 really got my attention) were about to come true in September, 2008.
7 years to the day after the 2001 hit on the stock market.
It reshaped everything.
And the idiots went on to cheer homosexual marriage, pronouns, escalate racial tensions, etc.
Just ....... bizarre.
Incredible - there was “something in the air” in 2008
“Call out the instigators!....”
I remember one particular day - I was driving down the highway (still go on that stretch of road) and you could just feel it.
I was regularly patted on the head and dismissed with a wave of the hand regarding the economy, housing (I recommended NOT buying at that time).
Then in September, I awoke to Lehman Brothers, etc.
Then here come Barack and we’ve saved by “Hope. Change.”
It was like a mad cult.
I bet even if these hospitals do make you 'pay upfront', and you do, bills for incidental (and maybe even completely false) charges will trickle in for months.
[“something in the air”]
Hold on. Hold on.
Well, I remember...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA
That’s just a law change. Limit the amount, but don’t allow it to expire. Allow it to be transferable to other people.
I’m just saying that interest bearing investments is more efficient to provide healthcare than from the tax base.
Being Canadian, I’ve had over $200,000 taken from me for a healthcare system that I cannot morally justify so I can’t use it. That money could have been invested and it would have been worth $700,000 and I could have had a $30,000/yr income from it. Instead, I have nothing.
[but don’t allow it to expire]
I agree
[Being Canadian, I’ve had over $200,000 taken from me for a healthcare system that I cannot morally justify so I can’t use it. That money could have been invested and it would have been worth $700,000 and I could have had a $30,000/yr income from it. Instead, I have nothing.]
It seems like you guys had a good guy in Stephen Harper. I don’t know how I accurate I am on that.
But I’m sorry you’re stuck with Justin Trudeau. Canada was a place I once considered if I ever wanted to be an expat.
Both Mulroney and Harper tried to fix things, but liberals are not the type of people to sacrifice themselves for the good of the nation. Take a dollar from a liberal benefits, even if it means fixing the system, is like taking a bone from a junkyard dog.
Much like America these days, unfortunately
Yes. Once liberalism becomes the way of governing, a nation is doomed.
It should mean too we should be able to negotiate prices in advance.
How would that work for an emergency operation like an appendectomy? If your appendix is about to burst you don't have time to comparison shop doctors and read Yelp reviews. And what's to stop all the providers in your area, especially if you live in a rural area with fewer options, from jacking up the price anyway. If it's pay 20 grand for an operation or die, most people will go into debt and bankruptcy to get the 20 grand for the operation.
Really hope Trump repeals and replaces 0bamacare like he said he would do in his first term.
but, but but, 0bammyCare!!!
What does this mean for the Veterans Administration’s Community Care office, who presides over all veterans’ ‘off VA campus care?
That's a standard leftist false choice. Even before progressives took over health care, when did Hospitals turn away emergency cases? When did our nation leave people to die on the street? In fact - we do it now, and more than ever. Walk through Philadelphia, Oakland or San Diego and tell me if people are not dying on the streets.
the vast majority of medical expenses, and the most expensive treatments, are for chronic diseases, not emergencies.
That also doesn't mean you can't continue to have your Gov't funded hospitals. too many people rely on them anyway to simply "get rid of them."
Simply let another system grow alongside it. Because as a nation, we're gonna need it.
The entire medical industry and the insurance biz are eff’d up bad.
This country has no problems whatsoever sending hundreds of billions to other countries, all while forcing U.S. citizens at gun point to pay from millions of illegal aliens that those in government rolled out the red carpet for.
I remember. I was in Florida, but I remember. I recall hearing obama say, “in just a few days, we will fundamentally transform the unites States.” And if you look around that they did. President Trump tried to reverse it, but the People said with one voice, “Hell with you. We demand Lying Joe Biden to rule over us.” It was done.
It’s scary that so many people in a country
can support their own demise by supporting a man
such as Manchurian Candidate Barack Hussein Obama.
I felt that we were done for, then.
And I’ve seen nothing reverse it - until President Trump was elected
And they didn’t like that one bit
No.
The HSA is structured as a "use it or lose it" plan. And the accounts are not transferrable. It is impossible to accumulate enough savings in those accounts to make a difference in an emergency situation, or even a serious chronic problem.
If you can pay cash up front for procedures, it is possible to get 60% to 80% off the "list price" for some health care. That is what the HSA program should enable people to do.
To be effective, the HSA accounts should have no contribution limits, no expiration dates, and be fully transferrable. And completely exempt from any kind of Federal or State income taxes.
don’t forget it was Paul Ryan and McConnell who shot that down.
“our” guys. /spit
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