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The resources spend pursuing "unlicensed dealers" also known as private sellers, and on keeping a gun tracing system, are wasted resources.
1 posted on 04/16/2024 5:34:24 AM PDT by marktwain
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in the entire history of mass murders I bet not a single gun was purchased at a gun show


2 posted on 04/16/2024 5:38:33 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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As I get older the question is how do I reduce my collection without running afoul of the law? I had always thought gun shows were my best bet. Now I am unsure. How do I know a prospective buyer isn’t an ATF agent entrapping me? My kids have no interest in guns whatsoever. I suppose I could just die and let them do whatever with them.


3 posted on 04/16/2024 5:41:23 AM PDT by BipolarBob (The phone, the TV and the news of the world got in the house like a pigeon from hell)
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Would a continuous barrage of scary statistics be forthcoming were the unconstitutional BATFE to not exist?

You might be able to find their reason for existence on their home page. https://www.atf.gov/about/diversity

Then again, maybe not, as I don’t see continual harassment of law abiding citizens as one of the reasons for being.


5 posted on 04/16/2024 5:48:06 AM PDT by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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“unlicensed dealer” === scare term for “citizen”

“trafficked” == scare term for “sold”


6 posted on 04/16/2024 5:50:25 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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According to the National Shooting Sports Foundation’s adjusted calculations during the five-year period, the number of firearms sold through the NICS system was 14 million in 2017, 13.5 million in 2018, 13.6 million in 2019, 21.1 million in 2020, and 18.5 million in 2021, for a total of 80.7 million over five years.

Just this bit of information is staggering. If we started at 300 million firearms in the US (and it took us over 200 years to get to that poiint), this is about a 25% increase in just five years. It's as if people think they might need to defend themselves against something, or something.

8 posted on 04/16/2024 5:52:08 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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Hey, the more the Demoncrats get their way about controlling peoples right to own guns the more the Southern Border will open up for illegal guns coming into the country.


10 posted on 04/16/2024 5:59:37 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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There is no bigger “unlicensed dealer” than Eric Holder, the former U.S. Attorney General who trafficked weapons to cartels and blamed it on innocent U.S. citizens.


11 posted on 04/16/2024 6:06:06 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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This reminds me of the story of the guy in Arkansas (CEO of the Bill and Hillary International Airport) who was murdered by ATF agents recently. Other than here and presumably in the Little Rock local media, the story got no media attention. I don’t think it was even talked about on Fox. Wasn’t the reason they targeted him was that he was selling guns in a way they didn’t approve of?


13 posted on 04/16/2024 6:28:37 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Is this an actual law now? Private sales have always been lawfull in Texas.

FUATF

16 posted on 04/16/2024 7:00:48 AM PDT by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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Agree the more they to take away guns the bigger the black market gets.

Bonus Round: They have no idea how much tax money they are
losing.


17 posted on 04/16/2024 7:06:26 AM PDT by Vaduz
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18 posted on 04/16/2024 7:08:31 AM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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The percentage of firearms sold by unlicensed dealers at the time the Second Amendment was added to the Constitution was 100%.


19 posted on 04/16/2024 7:18:07 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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I remember before Dec 1968. Almost anyone could get a seller’s license and operate a kitchen table gun sales store.

Back then you could get a gun from a bookstore, pawn shop, hardware store, grocery store, liquor store, record shop, clothing store, gas station, saddle shop, Hat shops, feed store. private dealers in homes. They were for sale everywhere! Cash and carry. No background checks no waiting periods no ATF forms to fill out. Yet the crime rate was very low even though the news papers tried to make you believe it was high and all the problems were with Saturday Night Specials and Imported 5 shot bolt action army surplus rifles rifles.

In 1975, I had a co-wporker approach me as he knew I was interested in guns. He had a poorly printed “catalog” of guns for sale, all types from AR-15s to good quality S&Ws. Cash only. He would not say where the guns came from and I had a bad feeling not to get involved. He disappeared not long after.

Many were closed by Lyndon Johnson and the 1968 Gun Control Law, later Jimmy Carter caused more to be closed, same for Bill (slick Willie) Clinton, Obama went after the ammo to starve guns and their owners.


22 posted on 04/16/2024 7:42:48 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Not wasted from their viewpoint. It creates a firearms owner registry. One of the primary goals of police state. Secondly it adds another layer of liability to gun ownership. All good things for aspiring tyrants. It’s all part of the loathsome 0bama’s fundamental transformation that is continuing unabated under the equally despicable Biden.


26 posted on 04/16/2024 8:51:01 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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They are specifically NOT supposed to be keeping track of who has what guns...

And here we are.

It is DECADES past due time to end the BATFE. Period. Full stop. Close it down and replace it with nothing.


34 posted on 04/17/2024 7:56:36 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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