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MOSCOW TERROR ATTACK — ROGUE UKRAINIAN OP OR WESTERN BACKED?
Sonar 21 ^ | 23 March 2024 | by Larry Johnson

Posted on 03/24/2024 3:17:38 PM PDT by Kazan

Lots to cover with respect to Friday’s mercenary terrorist attack in Moscow. Why do I call it “mercenary”? Because it appears that the perps had no ideological axe to grind and were hired for a relatively paltry sum and carried out indiscriminate killing at a public gathering of civilians. Based on the video evidence released so far in the public domain the planning for this op was not the work of skilled professionals — e.g., they used the same vehicle to travel to and from the attack site, their movements inside the building demonstrated unsophisticated Close Quarter Battle skills and they had poor muzzle discipline, which means they had minimal rifle training.

The Russians got a jump on the investigation because one of the concert goers coldcocked one of the shooters, and the shooter was captured alive. The Russians also followed the escape vehicle and nabbed four of the suspects as they skedaddled for Ukraine. The western media is doing its damnedest to push the storyline that this was an ISIS attack and dismiss the possibility that it could have been Ukraine. But the initial questioning of the suspects revealed men of limited intelligence — i.e., guys who are not too smart — who told a cock and bull story that they were recruited via a telegram channel by an anonymous souThere also is no good explanation why a band of Tajiks were hightailing it for the Ukrainian border. At a minimum that shows a belief that they would find safehaven if they could get across the border. They certainly did not behave like diehard jihadist warriors eager to sacrifice themselves and go to Paradise and cash in the reward of 72 virgins.

I think the Islamic terrorism claim is a red herring and designed to shift attention away from the other indicators that some in the West, at a minimum, had foreknowledge of this attack. How else to explain the March 7 warning by US Embassy Moscow for American citizens to steer clear of event, such as concerts? And then, as I wrote yesterday, the US State Department was quick to issue a claim exonerating Ukraine for any role in the attack. The fires were still raging at the Crocus facility. That means only one thing — the State Department had intelligence indicating who carried out the attack. But the U.S. apparently did not share that with its Russian counterparts. That lapse alone is simply going to stoke more suspicion in Moscow about Western involvement.

ut we already know one thing for sure — that the West has been involved with facilitating a series of terrorist attacks against Russians since the start of the special military operation. What else do you call the artillery and missile strikes on Russian civilians in the Donbass,] and in Belgorod, with munitions that were supplied by the United States and other major NATO countries? At a minimum, that makes western powers an accessory to an act of terror.

Friday’s senseless slaughter of civilians in Moscow serves no broad, political purpose, nor does it advance Ukraine’s military prospects in anyway. It is important to note that the attack has rallied world sympathy for Russia, including some conciliatory comments out of Washington by National Security spokesman John Kirby. However, it is also important to note the President Joe Biden has said nothing, and has made no contact with Vladimir Putin to express sorrow or empathy. Quite a contrast with Biden’s actions in the wake of the news that Alexey Navalny, a political opponent of Vladimir Putin, had died. Biden was quick to express his fake grief for the death of Navalny.

It appears that the growing death toll from the attack was not caused by bullets, but by smoke inhalation. I still have seen no report explaining how the fire got started. Some speculate that it was caused by a Molotov cocktail. I’m sure those details will be coming out in the next few days. It is also clear from President Putin’s demeanor during his speech today that Russia will retaliate against those responsible for this attack.

I do not think that this act of terrorism is going to change Russia’s military strategy and plans for Ukraine. News from the front shows that Russian forces are continuing to advance all along the front in the Donbass, and are pushing the Ukrainians back towards the Dnieper River. The position of the Ukrainian military is becoming more precarious with each passing day.

As far identifying those responsible for organizing and funding this attack, I have no special insight. I am confident that Russian investigators will be able to trace the origin of the firearms, assuming the serial numbers have not been erased. At this juncture, I am inclined to believe that the West knew something was going to happen based on intelligence out of Ukraine, but did not have specifics other than this was an operation approved by Ukraine’s intelligence service. Is it possible that some British and/or American intelligence officers had an inkling of what was going to happen? Yes, I think that is highly likely. The one thing I know for certain is that this attack is going to strengthen the will of President Putin, the Russian general staff, and Russia’s intelligence service to put an end to NATO meddling in Ukraine, and the ability of NATO proxies to attack the Russian people. Whoever approved this badly miscalculated and will pay a terrible, but well deserved, price.

So what do you think? Western directed or rogue operation?


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To: Salohcin

“Trying to exfiltrate through the most heavily militarized zone on the planet. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.”

Fairly quiet where they were trying.


81 posted on 03/24/2024 5:34:00 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: ansel12; Kazan

Down to accusing FReepers of being Muslim...lol

Not everyone is some sleeper troll like you... sleeper troll. Whose account *literally slept for years.


82 posted on 03/24/2024 5:34:13 PM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: AAABEST; Kazan

Kazan is the largest city and capital of Tatarstan, Russia.


83 posted on 03/24/2024 5:37:11 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: ansel12
"Read that thread, he let it remain as fact and in many threads since then when he was asked follow up questions."

I don't think there's a law on FR that requires people to make it known that what they've written is actually sarcasm.

84 posted on 03/24/2024 5:38:08 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Kazan

The perpetrators did this for a small amount of money and were caught in a war zone near the Ukraine border. It would take a great deal of planning and coordination with Ukrainian forces to expect they could get across the border safely. Common Sense is a Superpower.


85 posted on 03/24/2024 5:38:14 PM PDT by chuckr (Barack Hussein Obama - A Legend In His Own Mind)
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To: freeandfreezing
Why not just like at what ISIS themselves has to say? And then look at the bodycam footage they released of the massacre.

ISIS has quite a history of claiming actions they had nothing to do with.

Don't you think it is the wiser thing to wait until the Russians disclose what they found? After all, they do have the perps, and I'm pretty sure they have a way to make them talk.

You can believe Biden and his cronies, who declared within hours it was ISIS -- but I'm not stupid enough to rely on their "word." It's useless.

86 posted on 03/24/2024 5:38:40 PM PDT by icclearly ( )
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To: Salohcin

Not even remotely close to the North Korean border.

How have SpecOps carried out attacks in Russia?


87 posted on 03/24/2024 5:41:39 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: BobL

Yes, so quiet that they can just drive past all of the Russian military checkpoints while the soldiers are taking their afternoon naps, right?🤡


88 posted on 03/24/2024 5:45:42 PM PDT by Salohcin
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To: ansel12

Dude, you’re taking sarcasm literally. That’s the reason I try to remember to tag a sarcasm comment with a /sarc tab.


89 posted on 03/24/2024 5:46:33 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MA)
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To: freeandfreezing

“ The terrorists were heading for Belarus, not Ukraine.”
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You keep saying that so you MUST know things. /sarc

So where exactly on the road were the terrorists captured?


90 posted on 03/24/2024 5:50:44 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: House Atreides

The problem was months of follow up posts on different threads, he was letting freepers think he was a Muslim.


91 posted on 03/24/2024 5:52:34 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: mass55th

I don’t see how Ukraine gains from this. It’s just bad press and will unite the Russian people in favor of the war. In fact, Russia gains more than Ukraine from this. It took their police over 1 hour to respond! That’s suspicious.

The CIA gains though...they are always looking to stoke fires around the world. And possibly get Russia to use more deadly weapons in Ukraine, dragging the US into the war.


92 posted on 03/24/2024 5:56:26 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: Karl Spooner

“Western backed”

And as usual not one shred of PROOF offered by you Vatniks.


93 posted on 03/24/2024 5:58:11 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: Salohcin

“Yes, so quiet that they can just drive past all of the Russian military checkpoints while the soldiers are taking their afternoon naps, right?”

Not every inch is covered, lots of excursions behind lines, nothing different than every day events in this war, considering the length of the boundary.


94 posted on 03/24/2024 6:04:35 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: BobL

And they would know exactly were those empty spots are located because the Russian army is noted for never patrolling their lines? They would also have detailed maps of the Russian minefields and other defensive positions? Do you, and Putin, really except anyone to believe that the easiest path to safety was through a WAR ZONE? Yes, that’s extremely credible.🤣🤣🤣


95 posted on 03/24/2024 6:20:06 PM PDT by Salohcin
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To: Salohcin

“And they would know exactly were those empty spots are located because the Russian army is noted for never patrolling their lines? They would also have detailed maps of the Russian minefields and other defensive positions?”

Likewise, they wouldn’t have even considered going to Ukraine, UNLESS - unless they had some ‘help’ and were told where to go and promised safe passage.

Likely the same sources of ‘help’ in the Ukraine war effort that is always denied, but we all know it true.


96 posted on 03/24/2024 6:36:21 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: JSM_Liberty; Kazan

Terrorists from Tajikistan?

That story seemed quite odd when reported.

Tajikistan is never in the news but now we are to believe Tajiks carried out the attack?


97 posted on 03/24/2024 6:49:24 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: BobL

That’s solid logic you have there. The Ukrainians couldn’t come up with a safer solution instead of one that would implicate them if it went wrong? Do you really believe the Russian explanation? And should we also ignore the videos ISIS released that were taken by the terrorists themselves?


98 posted on 03/24/2024 6:50:55 PM PDT by Salohcin
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To: Salohcin

“That’s solid logic you have there.”

Thanks!


99 posted on 03/24/2024 7:14:36 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: desertsolitaire
"Would Russia willingly allow an operation to kill so many precious innocent civilians in some false flag attempt?"

Yes. Yes they would.

"Who benefits from this attack and loss of life there?"

Putin would use this to enact further crackdowns and power consolidation as he had with previous attacks such as Beslan.

"For it to have been Russia itself behind it, what is Russia today better positioned to do than they were before this attack? Anything?"

Use it as another propaganda coup to pit the west against each other like they have done before. Need proof? Look at what the resident Vatniks have been posting blaming the U.S. and the west for the attack.

100 posted on 03/24/2024 7:15:12 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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