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How Obama, Biden and the Vindmans screwed up Ukraine
Flopping Aces ^ | 03-21-24 | DrJohn

Posted on 03/21/2024 9:50:07 AM PDT by Starman417

Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.

It's out of the mouths of democrats every day. They spam X with it. They're far more concerned with the border security of Ukraine than they are the borders of the US. No one does more of that spamming than do the Vindman boys, Alexander and Eugene. You almost get the feeling that these two came to the US and infiltrated the military solely for the purposes of furthering the aspirations of Ukraine over those of the US. Together, they conspired against Donald Trump and wound up being key players in Trump's impeachment. They professed to be all upset about a call Trump made to Zelensky. Alex was listening in and he later reported that he "was worried about the implications for the U.S. Government's support of Ukraine." He then told his brother about the call, and the two then made sure to create a situation which saw Trump impeached. Inexplicably, this Vindman had no such concerns when Joe Biden was extorting Ukraine for a billion dollars to shut down an investigation closing in on Hunter Biden.

Their contribution to Trump's 2020 electoral loss is part of the story of how democrats screwed Ukraine.

For all of their blathering about foreign interference in US elections, no one interferes more in the elections of other countries than democrats.

Back in 2011 under Barack Obama's aegis, Hillary interfered in Russia's election, and it is why Putin hates Hillary.

Then in 2014 again under Obama's aegis, Victoria Nuland decided that she'd engineer a coup in Ukraine and install her own puppet. It's been called "the mess that Victoria Nuland made."

Carl Gershman, the neocon president of the US-taxpayer-funded National Endowment for Democracy, explained the plan in a Post op-ed on Sept. 26, 2013. Gershman called Ukraine “the biggest prize” and an important interim step toward toppling Putin, who “may find himself on the losing end not just in the near abroad but within Russia itself.”

For her part, Nuland passed out cookies to anti-Yanukovych demonstrators at the Maidan square, reminded Ukrainian business leaders that the US had invested $5 billion in their “European aspirations,” declared “fuck the EU” for its less aggressive approach, and discussed with US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt who the new leaders of Ukraine should be. “Yats is the guy,” she said, referring to Arseniy Yatsenyuk.

Nuland saw her big chance on Feb. 20, 2014, when a mysterious sniper – apparently firing from a building controlled by the Right Sektor – shot and killed both police and protesters, escalating the crisis. On Feb. 21, in a desperate bid to avert more violence, Yanukovych agreed to a European-guaranteed plan in which he accepted reduced powers and called for early elections so he could be voted out of office.

But that wasn’t enough for the anti-Yanukovych forces who – led by Right Sektor and neo-Nazi militias – overran government buildings on Feb. 22, forcing Yanukovych and many of his officials to flee for their lives. With armed thugs patrolling the corridors of power, the final path to “regime change” was clear.

Instead of trying to salvage the Feb. 21 agreement, Nuland and European officials arranged for an unconstitutional procedure to strip Yanukovych of the presidency and declared the new regime “legitimate.” Nuland’s “guy” – Yatsenyuk – became prime minister.

This is why Putin annexed Crimea. Obama had no reaction but others did:
What the coup also did was revive long pent-up antagonisms between the ethnic Ukrainians in the west, including elements that had supported Adolf Hitler’s invasion of the Soviet Union during World War Two, and ethnic Russians in the south and east who feared the anti-Russian sentiments emanating from Kiev.

First, in Crimea and then in the so-called Donbas region, these ethnic Russians, who had been Yanukovych’s political base, resisted what they viewed as the illegitimate overthrow of their elected president. Both areas held referenda seeking separation from Ukraine, a move that Russia accepted in Crimea but resisted with the Donbas.

Donbas.
However, when the Kiev regime announced an “anti-terrorism operation” against the Donbas and dispatched neo-Nazi and other extremist militias to be the tip of the spear, Moscow began quietly assisting the embattled ethnic Russian rebels, a move that Nuland, the Obama administration and the mainstream news media called “Russian aggression.”

Amid the Western hysteria over Russia’s supposedly “imperial designs” and the thorough demonizing of Putin, President Barack Obama essentially authorized a new Cold War against Russia, reflected now in new US strategic planning that could cost the US taxpayers trillions of dollars and risk a possible nuclear confrontation.

Things remained quiet through the Trump administration. The Vindman boys then set Trump up and helped Biden "win" the 2020 election. Biden came along and blew everything up.

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: biden; obama; ukraine; vindman

1 posted on 03/21/2024 9:50:07 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Most Conservatives still don’t seem to grasp that the DC Comintern pushing neo-marxist chaos and intervention abroad, is the same DC Comintern pushing neo-marxist chaos and social-engineering at home.


2 posted on 03/21/2024 9:58:46 AM PDT by PGR88
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The Ukrainians have assumed some control of our federal politicians. Our garbage ruling class is having a fire sale on American prosperity.


3 posted on 03/21/2024 10:05:41 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.q)
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“ Together, they conspired against Donald Trump and wound up being key players in Trump’s impeachment”

Fake impeachment to rid Trump so they could continue corruption


4 posted on 03/21/2024 10:11:21 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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Don’t leave out Victoria Nuland.
That Witch Destroyed YouCrayne Too.


5 posted on 03/21/2024 10:16:31 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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Yet another war that obama and his puppet master started.


6 posted on 03/21/2024 10:20:29 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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Another of Joe’s foreign policy successes.


7 posted on 03/21/2024 10:21:09 AM PDT by Belteshazzar
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And Nuland and others, let’s not forget Nuland and the CIA.


8 posted on 03/21/2024 10:24:16 AM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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...Obama essentially authorized a new Cold War against Russia...
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The complete reversal of Obama’s attitude towards Russia during his presidency still puzzles me. I wonder if Putin outmaneuvered Obama behind the scenes somehow, denting BO’s big ego and launching him into “get even” mode.


9 posted on 03/21/2024 10:30:15 AM PDT by Yardstick
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What about "How Obama, Biden and the Vindmans screwed up the United States"?
10 posted on 03/21/2024 10:34:33 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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Don’t leave out Victoria Nuland.
That Witch Destroyed YouCrayne Too.


11 posted on 03/21/2024 10:45:00 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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Vindman. Such a nice Slavic name. Kind of makes you wonder what relationship this Ukrainian duo have with the Right Sektor/neo-Nazi elements. If I had an ancestry.com membership I’d be doing some research into that name among German 18-19th century colonists to Ukraine.


12 posted on 03/21/2024 10:48:32 AM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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13 posted on 03/21/2024 10:48:38 AM PDT by sauropod (Ne supra crepidam.)
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This article explains why I don’t give a damn if Russia occupies Ukraine in its entirety for the next thousand years.


14 posted on 03/21/2024 10:49:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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vindwoman is #3 on my hit parade
The other two are also women.
But I’m a Christian; so I can only fantasize.


15 posted on 03/21/2024 10:52:59 AM PDT by Migraine ( )
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To: Yardstick

The timing may be off a bit but all these happened roughly around the same time and during one President and Sec of State’s watch. Obama and Hillary presided over the Arab Spring. He really messed that all up. He went against the Iranian people who wanted social freedoms to support the Ayatollah’s regime. On the flip side, he supported Islamist populous rise in Egypt. The military eventually took back control of Egypt. He warned against Syrian overreactions and set red lines, which he flip flopped on but it caused enough drama that by 2015 Syria called Putin who sent 50,000 troops to defend Assad’s regime from internal civil war and potential threats from the US. He (or they, there are some theories about why) decided Qaddafi was of no use, even though Libya had basically renounced terror and paid reparations for Lockerbie. Qaddafi died with a knife stabbed into his undercarriage. And a lot more.

Nuland et al engineered the color revolution in Ukraine. Russia was given a pass on taking Crimea. It almost appears like a deal was struck.

Trump came in, and for whatever reason there were no major conflicts. Trump did not hesitate to take out Suleimani - the Iranian leader who was responsible for the death and maiming of countless Americans in Iraq. Suleimani supported the Shia in Iraq and supplied and trained them on all those roadside IEDs that ambushed American military personnel. But that is a side issue. Trump heard the same thing we all did - Biden, who was not even a declared candidate, spoke about how he blackmailed the Ukranian prosecutor investigating Hunter Biden’s (and other people’s) dealing with Ukraine. The overreaction to this tells the tale. As POTUS he was perfectly within his rights to ask another world leader to provide information about corruption involving US aid. But these people went ballistic. There was nothing impeachable about that. The flak he took suggests he was over a very sensitive target. Your guess is as good as mine.

I wish Trump had doubled down on it. We may not be in this mess today if he had. Anyway, none of this seems to be a coincidence. Putin invaded after Biden was elected. He seems to have tacit permission in 2014 to take Crimea when Biden was VP., and Obama didn’t complain. There is a reason he waited… or rather, a reason why he went in now that Biden is POTUS. He may have miscalculated the reaction, but he had a reason.


16 posted on 03/21/2024 10:59:03 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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Biden limited American oil and gas distribution, production, and exploration on his first day as President. The resulting doubling of oil and gas prices have funded Russian and Iranian adventures.


17 posted on 03/21/2024 1:19:19 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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