Posted on 03/10/2024 7:43:49 AM PDT by davikkm
In a surprising turn of events, Pope Francis has urged Ukrainian President Zelensky to display the “courage of the white flag” and engage in direct negotiations with Russian President Putin to end the devastating war that has persisted for two years. This call for dialogue comes amid conflicting viewpoints on how to achieve a resolution to the conflict.
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>Can you explain why what you posted appears almost exactly on many different comment threads in different publications?
Is that the talking point of the day from the Russian MOD?<
If you put your little Thinking Cap on for a few days, I’m sure you’ll figure it out.
FR Post of the Day!
This is an interesting point.
When Gorbachev returned to Moscow from Reykavik in 1986, he told the Politburo that he knew exactly how Reagan was going to try to bring down the USSR; it would be by forcing the Soviets to spend money until the Soviet Union collapsed.
I have thought for some time that as we brought down Communism in Russia, Putin would (ironically) return us the favor, but I didn't think our spending would be the means by which he did it.
Gossip from Moscow:
Patriarch Kirill thanked the Pope for his honesty.
The latest statements of Pope Francis have caused a lot of noise. Let us remind you that he said that you need to have courage and raise the white flag in order to save people’s lives. In Ukraine and some European countries, the Pope’s words were taken as a call for Kyiv’s capitulation. Francis himself was practically branded for his allegedly pro-Russian position.
On Saturday evening, Patriarch Kirill sent a letter to the Vatican in which he thanked the Pope for his honesty.
“As church leaders, we cannot support the war and are forced to look for different ways to stop it. I am grateful to you for your honesty and sincerely believe in the purity of your intentions,” the head of the Russian Orthodox Church wrote.
Sources close to Patriarch Kirill, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told us that the day before the head of the Russian Orthodox Church even raised a glass of wine to the words of the Pope.
“Kirill has lost influence in Ukraine, but is trying to prove his importance to the Kremlin in other ways. Relations between him and the president are far from ideal, but not exactly bad. The Patriarch was repeatedly sent signals that he could be sent to retirement if the influence of the Russian Orthodox Church is not there grow, but will continue to decline,” said an interlocutor close to the head of the Russian Church.
https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/3739
The Vatican, through its spokesman Matteo Bruni, has begun to explain what the Pope actually meant and that it should not be interpreted as giving up but instead negotiating for peace. This is not enough, so within 24 hours there will probably be a statement directly from the Pope. (It’s not easy being Pope or Patriarch.)
[[The Vatican, through its spokesman Matteo Bruni, has begun to explain what the Pope actually meant]]
Explaining is losing-
Spoken as the “F”ING COMMIE HE IS!
Well, your argument certainly was.
You were wrong and you won’t admit it.
I(and others here) have stated that I am on neither side.
To say I am mostly isolationist would be correct.
To call me a “Putinista” is childish and not correct.
Along with binary thinking are false dichotomies.
You were engaging in projection.
Is it the Pope’s place to tell countries when to surrender? Is that a part of his job?
What Pope. The Catholic church is currently without a valid Pope. This pos imposter that calls himself pope is squatting in the seat.
It looks like, from the posts on this thread, that you unintentionally started a bar room brawl.
And getting 1 out of 500 right ain't bad. LOL!
I don’t hate Russia. I hate Russian leaders as I do American and Ukrainian’s ones too. All of them are corrupt scumbags willing to sacrifice young men’s lives to enrich their pockets and the military industrial complex.
And don’t think we’re better because we have fair elections, we don’t. Millions of fraudulent votes were cast in 2020. This turned the country over to lunatics and the establishment.
The three letter agencies are trying to spy, destroy, and jail their political opposition. Our political class is allowing an invasion of millions and trying to bankrupt our country. Sure Russia is scum, but so are we, it is just a matter of degrees. Our political establish is willing to destroy this country to enrich itself and maintain power.
They are here as well...and it seems you would be one of them. There's hardly a communist / dictator / terrorist supporting political figure you seem to not support...you were even celebrating the election of George Galloway the other day, were you not?
>I don’t hate Russia. I hate Russian leaders as I do American and Ukrainian’s ones too. All of them are corrupt scumbags willing to sacrifice young men’s lives to enrich their pockets and the military industrial complex.<
I don’t hate the 0.01% of leaders who aren’t evil and who try to help the citizens of their country. The remainder should be Ceausescued.
I agree with the rest of your statement.
Josef Stalin, Pol Pot, and a host of other foreign dictators throughout history didn't have a great deal of impact on internal American domestic policy either. That doesn't make them good men.
But it's understandable how you keep making these kinds of false arguments to trail off into a rabbit hole vs. actually responding to the points being posed to you - because you can't...and you know it. This is the same nonsense you do thread after thread when reality stares you in the face - wave shiny objects to get off onto another subject and hope the distraction works.
“Of course the communist fraud of a pope is rooting for the communists.”
I believe he’s siding AGAINST the Biden Administration.
“Alexei Navalny was not available for comment.”
Neither was Gonzalo Lira, or Jeffrey Epstein.
“What did Lira report on the issue?”
I don’t believe he was ‘available for comment’, but in any case, he got the last word in, as Nuland is back to baking cookies, but this time for her family (if they even still talk to her).
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