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To: BroJoeK
Now the story as to how Jefferson's anti-slavery paragraph got deleted from our Declaration of Independence -- it's a bit vague, since Jefferson himself didn't name individuals and also claimed some of them were northerners.

Everyone but Jefferson. He was the *ONLY* Southerner on the committee.

John Adams, representative of Massachusetts
Thomas Jefferson, representative of Virginia
Benjamin Franklin, representative of Pennsylvania
Roger Sherman, representative of Connecticut
Robert Livingston, representative of New York

Pretty hard sell when the Northerners are the majority and *THEY* are against what the Southerner wrote.

Clearly the vote was either 3/2 or 4/1, with the Northern majority voting to get rid of it.

I personally think the vote was 4/1 because none of those men were stupid.

136 posted on 02/14/2024 3:05:18 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp; ProgressingAmerica; x; jmacusa
Regarding how Jefferson's anti-slavery text got deleted from the Declaration of Independence, DiogenesLamp argues it was Northerners, not Southerners, who deleted Jefferson's words:

DiogenesLamp: "Everyone but Jefferson. He was the *ONLY* Southerner on the committee...
Pretty hard sell when the Northerners are the majority and *THEY* are against what the Southerner wrote.
Clearly the vote was either 3/2 or 4/1, with the Northern majority voting to get rid of it."

Declaration Committee of Five: Franklin, Adams, Jefferson, Sherman & Livingston:

So, the issue here is whether Jefferson's anti-slavery text was deleted by the Declaration committee of five, or by the entire Congress of 56 delegates.
If it was deleted by the five committee members, then DiogenesLamp has to be correct that the others were all Northerners and so they must have voted against Jefferson's anti-slavery words.

However, that's not what history tells us.
Rather history says Jefferson's text was deleted by the entire Congress of 56 delegates:

So, apparently, Jefferson's words made it through the mostly Northern declaration committee, but were deleted during Congressional debate.
One way we know this for certain is from Jefferson himself: So, according to Jefferson himself, it was South Carolina and Georgia who insisted on deleting his anti-slavery words, with a slight acquiescence from some northern slave traders -- ahem... ahaw... Rhode Island?

Since important votes had to be unanimous, it only needed South Carolina and Georgia in opposition to delete Jefferson's anti-slavery text, with no need to force Northern delegates to put their mouths where their money was. 😉

56 delegates discussed and deleted Jefferson's anti-slavery text:

160 posted on 02/16/2024 1:00:50 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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