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China’s Economic Crossroads: Debt Ratio Nears 300%… Employment Dims, and Job Market Gloom Deepens… A Storm Brews on Multiple Fronts
Citizen Watch Report ^

Posted on 02/01/2024 12:03:56 PM PST by davikkm

In a disconcerting confluence of economic challenges, China finds itself at a crossroads with debt soaring to nearly 300%, and now, the ominous specter of a darkening employment landscape. As the debt-to-GDP ratio climbs, the pressure on employment intensifies, casting shadows over job opportunities and amplifying uncertainties in the job market.

Amid shrinking prospects and a gloomy job market, Chinese workers face the grim reality of pay cuts and layoffs. Reports reveal that pay cuts and unchanged salaries have become the new norm, painting a stark contrast to the past when job switches promised substantial salary increases, especially for senior-level management.

(Excerpt) Read more at citizenwatchreport.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: china; clickmyblogplease; debt; job

1 posted on 02/01/2024 12:03:56 PM PST by davikkm
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To: davikkm

Time for a gory little war to juice the economy back up.


2 posted on 02/01/2024 12:11:45 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: davikkm

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3 posted on 02/01/2024 12:19:54 PM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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To: davikkm
It is most interesting to find varying views about GDP-Debt ratios, as not all agree. Some wildly disagree.

Consider:

"China's is officially reported as having a debt-to-GDP ratio of 83% by the IMF. Using the World Economics GDP database, China's GDP would be $33,694 billion - 25% larger than official estimates, China's debt ratio would be smaller at 66.5%"

China's Debt-to-GDP Ratio World Economics citing IMF, 66.5% in the last year

Debt to GDP Ratio by Country 2024 World Population Review, 77.1 % in 2022

National debt in relation to gross domestic product (GDP) in China from 2012 to 2022 with forecasts until 2028 Statista. 82.98%

China Government Debt to GDP circa 78%

Given the penchant of the media -- remember the Covid pandemic hysteria? -- to press forward with shrieks, one should probably proceed slowly with any evaluation.
4 posted on 02/01/2024 12:20:02 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Carriage Hill

Desperate times can produce poor decisions. Best option for China is to get the US into a war with Iran, where we tie up air and naval power, and expend much of our precision strike inventory that would be needed for a war with China. Then they take Taiwan.


5 posted on 02/01/2024 12:21:59 PM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: davikkm

Everything we buy is from China, how could things be bad there?


6 posted on 02/01/2024 12:36:44 PM PST by RushingWater (Thank God for no more mean tweets, it's worth 30% inflation. )
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To: davikkm

What has kept China together so far has been the belief that things were getting better, and that their children would have a better life.

Break that assumption, and you break the society.


7 posted on 02/01/2024 12:39:24 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: davikkm

They’ll be fine. They just need to reduce their population by 33%, before May 1. They’ve done it before.


8 posted on 02/01/2024 12:49:15 PM PST by lurk (u)
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To: davikkm

They’ll be fine. They just need to reduce their population by 33%, before May 1. They’ve done it before.


9 posted on 02/01/2024 12:49:17 PM PST by lurk (u)
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To: ETCM

A very real scenario. Taiwan’s semiconductor industry would be just the economic hedge China could use for balance of payments and military upgrades. Biden would never defend Taiwan.


10 posted on 02/01/2024 12:56:44 PM PST by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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To: lurk

China is already in the middle of a population collapse. They don’t need to manufacturers one.

As for an economic collapse, China isn’t like other countries. They will hold it together long after Western countries would have been long gone. The CCP has such tight control on media that 90% of the people would have no idea a collapse was happening and the other 10% would keep their mouth shut.


11 posted on 02/01/2024 1:01:36 PM PST by Sparticus (Primary the Tuesday group!)
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To: davikkm

China might have its stuff sold with Chinese branding and without American brand markups.


12 posted on 02/01/2024 1:05:33 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Rowdyone

Taiwan its own means to pay for US military hardware, unlike Ukraine.


13 posted on 02/01/2024 1:07:40 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: davikkm

Do China’s economic woes pose serious contagion threats to our economy and or the world outlook? I seem to recall the great crash of ‘29 began in Europe.....


14 posted on 02/01/2024 1:19:37 PM PST by desertsolitaire ( M)
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To: ETCM

Sadly, at this point, Bidet&Co probably won’t help Taiwan at all, so it wouldn’t even take a conflict with the muzzie(SPIT!) filth.


15 posted on 02/01/2024 2:28:56 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: ETCM

“Then they take Taiwan.”

Never happen. The Gurkhas in the Indian army exposed the ChiComm army as a paper tiger at Ladakh in 2020. The Gen Z apocalypse is even worse in China than America.

“Disheartened by a weak economy, young people are employing tactics they refer to as “lying flat” and “letting it rot,” terms used to signify a reduction in effort or even leaving the workforce entirely. This is frustrating Chinese leaders and upsetting an already fragile economy.

https://www.si.umich.edu/about-umsi/news/lindtner-chinas-youth-are-lying-flat-protest-chinas-work-culture


16 posted on 02/01/2024 4:34:03 PM PST by sergeantdave (AI is the next iteration of a copy and paste machine.)
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