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To: george76

(Affirmative action which excludes whites and Asians)

Just don’t say the quiet part out loud. Children from low economic areas tend not to do as well as children from more prosperous areas, partly because of schools, but mostly of lack of challenging environment that encourages critical and original thinking.

IQ is not necessarily something anybody is born with. But an environment rich in learning situations engages the functions early on, and the IQ responds proportionately.


10 posted on 01/27/2024 6:05:21 AM PST by alloysteel (Most people slog through life without ever knowing the wonders of true insanity.)
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To: alloysteel
partly because of schools, but mostly of lack of challenging environment that encourages critical and original thinking.

And partly because in "the hood" the thugs bully and beat up any kid who is trying to learn something for "acting white".

23 posted on 01/27/2024 6:19:07 AM PST by Mogger (Are)
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To: alloysteel

“IQ is not necessarily something anybody is born with. But an environment rich in learning situations engages the functions early on, and the IQ responds proportionately.”

I’ve had to deal with men from privileged backgrounds who had every opportunity and some of them were remarkably unintelligent. While your observation is correct, I’ve also dealt with people from poor backgrounds who had nothing in the way of opportunity growing up who are doing very well. I conclude there is an element of IQ that’s like having a big penis. Either you do or you don’t and there’s nothing (despite what the internet says) you can do about it. But in my opinion, the biggest differentiator between success and failure is attitude. If you have a bad attitude, it doesn’t matter if you’re a genius, you’ll do poorly. Good attitude and good work ethic, you’ll be fine. A huge number of blacks I’ve met have a built-in bad attitude and it holds them back in ways they’ll attribute to racism. No, it’s attitude-ism. A high school science teacher explained it this way. He said, “black culture is like a bucket full of crabs. Anytime a crab almost gets out, the other crabs latch on to it and pull it back down.”


29 posted on 01/27/2024 6:23:22 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: alloysteel

Unfortunately, many studies demonstrate that potential, lived IQ is capped by nature—and more due to nature than nurture. Not, of course, that nurture, including nutrition and environment, is not also important.


49 posted on 01/27/2024 6:52:21 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: alloysteel
IQ is not necessarily something anybody is born with. But an environment rich in learning situations engages the functions early on, and the IQ responds proportionately.

Ahh, the nature vs nurture debate. There used to be an educational institution that had an ad running constantly that said, “Everyone is born with equal abilities but not with equal opportunities.” To what degree do you buy into that statement?

64 posted on 01/27/2024 7:25:09 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: alloysteel

Brandon once said, “poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”

Yes, environment and parental involvement has a lot to do with it. Kids who are allowed to roam the streets all night and can’t find their way to school the next morning aren’t going to become CEOs.

I was a guinea pig for those learning to give IQ tests. During the first one, my six year old self asked why the car puzzle didn’t have headlights. They talked about that for years. IMO, that wasn’t a sign of intelligence but simple common sense. Yes, the test originated from CA.

BTW, you can learn the tests and create your own IQ score so they mean nothing. Psst, don’t play the game past the 130s.


91 posted on 01/27/2024 9:17:58 AM PST by bgill
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