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To: alloysteel
IQ is not necessarily something anybody is born with. But an environment rich in learning situations engages the functions early on, and the IQ responds proportionately.

Ahh, the nature vs nurture debate. There used to be an educational institution that had an ad running constantly that said, “Everyone is born with equal abilities but not with equal opportunities.” To what degree do you buy into that statement?

64 posted on 01/27/2024 7:25:09 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

Nature versus nurture. Rather difficult to winnow out the impact of either, as there are no means to provide a reasonably accurate measure of the contribution of each to the whole. And that is why human beings end up being individually unique, even identical twins. Now, if there a way to produce, say, twenty or fifty identical clones, it may be possible the refine the impact of either nature or nurture.

Still subject to a lot of subjectivity and random error.

And what about the special instance of Asperger’s syndrome? Once thought to be a kind of mental retardation, the individuals subject to this condition have been found to have an IQ level off the charts, but have very limited social skills, and some kind of rigidity of thinking much like obsessive-compulsive disorder. Does it need to be “cured”? Perhaps not, but it takes some very special guidance, not available to many if not most of these individuals.


71 posted on 01/27/2024 7:56:55 AM PST by alloysteel (Most people slog through life without ever knowing the wonders of true insanity.)
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To: fireman15

“Everyone is born with equal abilities but not with equal opportunities.” To what degree do you buy into that statement?

Not at all.

Intelligence falls on a normal curve, just like height, weight, hair color basketball ability, etc. That is nature.

Opportunities can allow you to develop and maximize what you have. That is nurture.


101 posted on 01/27/2024 1:00:41 PM PST by cyberstoic
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