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Immigration Will Not “Save” Social security or the Welfare State
Citizen Watch Report ^ | Chris Black

Posted on 01/10/2024 7:27:14 AM PST by davikkm

Native born Americans will only use 95% of the benefits they pay into social security, leaving a small but healthy surplus for the future of the program.

While foreign born workers will collect 120% of the benefits they pay in (www.fairus.org/issue/publications-resources/mass-immigration-wont-save-social-security), representing a major deficit for the program.

(Excerpt) Read more at citizenwatchreport.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: clickbaitgarbage; immigration; socialsecurity; welfare
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1 posted on 01/10/2024 7:27:14 AM PST by davikkm
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To: davikkm

How can it when nearly 3/4, 70 or so %, go on welfare or some form of gov support for life and never contribute anything to the nation? And also when some of the 30% or so that do work send their money back to the nation’s they came from?


2 posted on 01/10/2024 7:29:37 AM PST by Bob434
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To: davikkm

This current invasion of America has the same goal as all invasions have. DESTROY AMERICA AND ITS AMERICAN PEOPLE.


3 posted on 01/10/2024 7:36:38 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Remember what happened last time we brought in forced labor. Support Abbott's Underground RR.)
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To: davikkm
Paying my social security taxes for 50 years kinda paints me the fool, huh?

The only thing that keeps social security alive is the revenue streams coming into the federal government.

That's roughly $15 Billion a week. Hard to continue taking money from people and businesses for a program and then end the program while still collecting for it and paying the program administrators and clerks.

4 posted on 01/10/2024 7:40:21 AM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I have the feeling 350,000 border crosses every month are the ones we will be doing battle with. The Beltway leftists are merely bringing in their mercenary armies to go to war against the right.

The cell phones, debit cards, plane and bus tickets, lodging, legal representation, and Healthcare, for these mercenary armies are the command and control signs of a very large and strategically placed revolution.

5 posted on 01/10/2024 7:46:32 AM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: blackdog

0bama must be so proud....he finally got *his* army.


6 posted on 01/10/2024 7:51:42 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

That’s the plan.


7 posted on 01/10/2024 7:52:17 AM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: davikkm

It will destroy it.


8 posted on 01/10/2024 7:52:43 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: blackdog
I have the feeling 350,000 border crosses every month are the ones we will be doing battle with. The Beltway leftists are merely bringing in their mercenary armies to go to war against the right.

The cell phones, debit cards, plane and bus tickets, lodging, legal representation, and Healthcare, for these mercenary armies are the command and control signs of a very large and strategically placed revolution.

Correct and worth repeating.

9 posted on 01/10/2024 8:01:02 AM PST by 4Runner
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To: davikkm
The purpose of this massive flood of immigrants isn’t to have them support entitlements in the future. It’s to serve two purposes:

1. They are new customers for every business and government agency that faces financial chaos due to to the nation’s demographic mess.

2. They will accept a crappy standard of living at an inflated cost so their entitlement/welfare benefits don’t buy as much in the future as they do today.

10 posted on 01/10/2024 8:02:16 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Jane Long
Precisely. They don't hide what they are doing. They actually put it right out there from the concept phase thru beta testing. They spend years arranging obscure financing, staging, facility leases, transportation, regulatory bypasses, legal resources, and technology.

The activation of the left to send their mercenaries to battle will be when the frozen water bottles and molotov cocktails are replaced with guns and IED's.

It's tall work for the FBI to coordinate, train, and hold bomb making classes for five million new soldiers every year. Why do you think they need sprawling new facilities far away from prying eyes?!

11 posted on 01/10/2024 8:04:41 AM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: davikkm

I was a little shocked to note that the maximum SS taxable amount has gone from about $118,000 to $168,000 between 2016 and now. I guess not a lot of people make enough to pay the maximum but that is a rather large increase in just 7 or 8 years.


12 posted on 01/10/2024 8:19:34 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: davikkm

You should realize by now that the reality of what will actually occur matters not. What matters to the democrats is being able to extol the virtues of importing ten to fifteen million illegals as a way of saving the Soc Sec system, while riling up the bigots on the right, all while showing just how magnanimous we are, as reparations for our evil past. Oh, and if it Happens to skew the results of every election after they finally get the vote, so much the better.
Another word it is the slogan earring that counts comma not the reality. It’s Virtual signaling on a nationwide basis.


13 posted on 01/10/2024 8:24:06 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (The Democrat breadlines will be gluten-free. )
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To: davikkm
Immigration Will Not “Save” Social security or the Welfare State

Of course not…that’s what viruses and vaccines are for
14 posted on 01/10/2024 8:57:21 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: davikkm

50% of all immigrant households, including 55% of all non-citizen led households in the US receive some form of welfare benfit (cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrants-and-USBorn) in the United States.

And for all you American born people here’s your F/U finger so shut up and pay your taxes.

Democrat democracy in action


15 posted on 01/10/2024 8:58:25 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: davikkm

“You can have Open Borders or a Modern Welfare State.
One or the other. You cannot have both.”
Milton Friedman


16 posted on 01/10/2024 8:59:14 AM PST by MMusson
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

On the figures don’t lie but liers can figure front. One of the favorite tricks for the left in their public pronouncements is to use figures where the immigrants selected are legal immigrants then claim that this is why the rights claims about illegal immigrants are wrong. I would not be surprised to find that legal immigrants are a minor positive for SS, however once you include illegals, it becomes strongly negative, as illegals almost never get high paying jobs.


17 posted on 01/10/2024 10:55:34 AM PST by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: davikkm

It will collapse them, and that’s the intent. Cloward and Piven.


18 posted on 01/10/2024 11:09:24 AM PST by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: davikkm

It is only speeding the decline. Almost all of them are taking freebies from the taxpayers.


19 posted on 01/10/2024 12:11:20 PM PST by vpintheak (Pinko misanthrope)
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To: davikkm

SS was always a pyramid scheme


20 posted on 01/10/2024 1:03:12 PM PST by dontsteponsnake
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