“I’m not for getting rid of the monument, but those soldiers were fighting to rip apart The United States.”
Were they? The civil war was almost fought in the 1830s. You can look up why if you dont know.
State nullification of federal laws deemed unfair or unreasonable was part of the reason. It was not without precedent. It as not an unreasonable view at the time.
So from that perspective they were not ripping the US apart. The matter was settled after the loss of 500,000 American lives.
But you cannot support your thesis that “they were intent on ripping the USA apart”
This is not to quibble over the outcome but for you to state without humility that the South was wrong about the supremacy of States rights (even in regards to the abomination of slavery) when it was a Constitutionally unresolved issue (nullification) is absurd.
In the 1830s, the federal gov’t backed down, as they should have because of the nature of the tariff of abominations, and its blatant regional favoritism.
You cannot (factually) say in the context of today that the South wished to “tear the US apart” when they were exercising a not unreasonable interpretation of the Constitution at the time.
The issue was solved violently. There is no technical argument now. But let there be no mistake, the Americans who were part of the confederacy were Americans before, during, and after the civil war. Even if it took Congress a century to catch up to the obvious.
Ezekiels work was first and foremost about reconciliation. Folks who dont like its symbology are free to point it out, maybe with another monument. But instead they choose to remove (and probably destroy) a great historical work.
So it leaves open the precedent that all monuments, indeed all history is subject to future interpretation to empower an aggrieved collective.
You are acting like an aggrieved collective, empowered by your ignorance of history and your lack of self restraint and creativity to imagine a reasonable response to a monument you hate and a Constitution, and its past manifestations that you can only see through modern eyes.
Americans buried in Arlington on both sides of the civil war would disagree with your view if you could ask them.
Alas this view isnt popular, but as Americans we are (for the moment) free to disagree. Soon though, you and your ilk may well be able to change that, as you are already doing. You dont even know you are part of that cabal. But you are.
Merry Christmas.
You call me part of the Cabal? Don’t you dare. I’m 100 percent America First, and love the Unitef States next to nothing but GOD. I don’t have a problem with th3 Monument, asit was used for reconciliation. I’M whining. You are whining about a confederacy that no longer exists. It was President Trump’s hero who stood down Secesion in the 1830’s. If he had been President during the Civil War, the War would have been over in mounths. He made rebellious South Carolina stand down. Sherman brought humility to it. All the monuments should stay. One more thing: “ I felt admiration of someone who had fought so hard and given up so much for a cause. Even though I saw that cause as one of the worst ones in history.” Grant on Lee surendering.
Excellent explanations saving me from the typing I was still organizing. “Don’t confuse me with the facts” seems to be the motto of too many here. They are either stubbornly ignorant, unwitting tools of villains (see “From the river to the sea”) or purposely malicious agents working to replace patriotism and faith in God with Big Government.
The average Southern soldier suffered severe hardships and deprivations most of their Northern counterparts never imagined - not for slavery’s sake (as that, like today’s illegal aliens, robbed poor citizen’s opportunities) but for the sake of their state’s being warred upon and ravaged after being financially screwed over by the Northern ones for decades.
Regarding the phrase “War of Northern Aggression” is no joke when learning how the Southern state’s were effectively punked by a Congress totally under control of the Northeastern industrial complex of that time.
Tearing down this statue is an insult to those who, despite all the tragedy, turned the other cheek and sought a brighter future. But we’re living in a time where Martin Luther King’s vision of an America where we’re judged on our qualities over color is rapidly being replaced with Diversity (voluntary segregation), Equity (socialism/communism) and Inclusion (being forced to accept people wrong for the job/task).
This crap is poisonous to America’s current and future well being and will most assuredly get our military defeated when the hostilities the Democrats and their RINO lap dogs are escalating become open wars.
As Ozzy sang in my favorite hymn: “Why don’t they go out and do the fight? Oh Lord yeah!”