Logic defies many posters here. You obviously know what is going on. But, trying to explain it to closed minds is as tough as it gets.
When the evidence does come in, they only see that evidence which supports their bias and ignore the rest.
And then there are those who create strawmen to defend their bias...like assuming these "others" are claimed to be interstellar (which of course is impossible, they say).
The general consensus has been since the 1970's that what we are dealing with is extra-dimensional. And lately people are noticing that, whatever these things are, they seem to be similar to what has historically been referred to as "spiritual" in nature.
I, for one, am just keeping an open mind. I think it's much too early to draw any conclusions.
I think the very concept of alien life strikes fear in a lot of people's minds. The UFOs I saw on two occasions were solid and real enough. Don't know anything about who or what was piloting them. I doubt it was demons, but don't discount the whole spiritual/interdimensional hypothesis for so-called abductions.
The only thing I can remember that seemed like an alien abduction in my life was waking one night to find three clowns with big heads and done up in white grease paint staring down at me while I was unable to move my body and then they popped out of existence and it was morning. Dream? Could be. Probably. Felt real. Same with the OBEs on other occasions. So I don't discount out of hand the experiences of other people.
I grew up in an old colonial inn that was plagued by shadow people, doppelgängers, and orbs which I witnessed first-hand on an annoyingly frequent basis. I doubt spirits would need metallic discs in which to get around.
If aliens are here, it blows up our conceit of being top banana, and folks with a rigid mindset could find their paradigm shattered. Very scary. If this is all the work of demons and/or interdimensionals, then that, too, is scary. If it's a little from column A and a little from column B, then that blows up a lot of paradigms. Truly horrifying.
And most unnerving of all, if there is no A and no B and people are just soul-less meatbags who's essence is extinguished at the moment of death, but are slightly nuts during that brief transience from cradle to grave, well...what a dreary universe this is. Might as well adopt the WEF model of existence and chase more and more power and orgasms for one's self and subjugate the rest of meatbaggery.
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Every word out of your mouth screams dishonest prog.
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