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1 posted on 10/30/2023 7:54:24 PM PDT by Freeleesy
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To: Freeleesy
Yes.

The translations of the Holy Quran being sold to non Muslims have been altered to make Islam look like a religion of peace.

Read a true translation and you will see this has little to do with politics.

In our world what we call terrorism, in their world is just Muslims doing as the Holy Quran commands them.

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/16955 This is a link to a free book on Gutenberg.org, three translations by 3 Imams of the Holy Quran side by side.

Remember in one memorable scene, one of Scott's lines says it all: As Patton surveys the positive results of the battle in progress between Allied forces and the Nazi army in northern Africa, he proclaims, “Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!”

Every non Muslim needs to read the enemy's book.

Until they do, and then behave accordingly, this madness will never end.

We have some choices:

The Muslims kill or convert all of us.

We kill all of them and destroy every Holy Quran in the world.

They live in their part of the earth and we live in ours, with them not allowed in our part.

2 posted on 10/30/2023 7:56:39 PM PDT by Mogger
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>> Does that make them legitimate targets?

They’re not targets, they’re just in the way.


3 posted on 10/30/2023 7:57:31 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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If they die they die. On them.


4 posted on 10/30/2023 7:58:24 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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Except that Israel doesn’t target hospitals. This invites Hamas to gather in hospitals, of course, but then at least they’re cornered and not out doing other things.


5 posted on 10/30/2023 7:58:31 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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Oblige them!
6 posted on 10/30/2023 7:59:49 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man)
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Evacuate the actual sickies and then Nuke it from SPACE.

It’s the only way to be sure.


7 posted on 10/30/2023 8:00:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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That is actually participating in the conflict, and Hamas committed a war crime by co-locating with a hospital.

And not one word from The Hague since this started, even with video evidence of war crimes.


8 posted on 10/30/2023 8:01:06 PM PDT by Salvavida
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YES!

Bomb them all to smithereens!

9 posted on 10/30/2023 8:01:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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Where HAMAS hides, bombs follow. If that were not the case, HAMAS would have taken over far more territory.

I find the term ‘voluntary’ gives me pause. What happens to people who say ‘no’ to Hamas.

But still, this is Hamas choosing to forfeit human lives, not those they’ve attacked.


11 posted on 10/30/2023 8:01:34 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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“Does this change their civilian status under international law?”

No it doesn’t. It doesn’t matter whether they are there voluntarily or are prisoners of Hamas. My understanding of International Law gives Israel the RIGHT to attack legitimate military targets, regardless of any civilians that may also be there, regardless of the reason for them being there.


13 posted on 10/30/2023 8:06:44 PM PDT by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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4th Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, Part 3, Article 1, Section 28:

"The presence of a protected person (aka civilian noncombatant) may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations."

14 posted on 10/30/2023 8:08:09 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Everyone thinks you were executed. Stay dead - you'll live longer. (A. Breakspear, "Carnival Row"))
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“One of the giants of international law in war is Yoram Dinstein, and he is quoted in an ICRC monograph by legal scholar Jean-Francois Queguiner as saying “civilians who act as voluntary human shieldscan be regarded as directly participating in hostilities, with the result that they are deprived of immunity against direct attack and have no effect whatsoever on acommander’s assessment of proportionality.”


I don’t recall any of these “legal experts” or the NeoCons making these arguments when the Russians were attacking the Chechen terrorists and their supporters in Grozny.


15 posted on 10/30/2023 8:09:36 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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That makes them stupid.


16 posted on 10/30/2023 8:12:02 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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Welp.


17 posted on 10/30/2023 8:14:36 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Likely as voluntary as, “ we will kill your family if you leave”.


18 posted on 10/30/2023 8:16:01 PM PDT by Jonty30 (It turns out that I did not buy my cell phone for all the calls I might be missing at home.)
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No, of course not. They need to give them at least a one hour warning before blowing the building to Smithereens.


24 posted on 10/30/2023 8:31:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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They’re stupid enough to believe they’ll get virgins and riches from Allah if they’re martyred.

You can’t reason with pigheadedness like this.


27 posted on 10/30/2023 8:34:03 PM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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Hamas’ headquarters is a legitimate military target regardless. Israel has the right to fire on it, and destroy it, no matter who is in the way.

When Hamas uses doctors as involuntary human shields, that is an atrocity by Hamas, and siting their headquarters in a hospital was an atrocity by Hamas. If involuntary human shields die in the process, they were murdered by Hamas, just as when a kidnapper uses his victim as a shield in a gunfight with the police, and the police shoot at the kidnapper and kill the hostage, the kidnapper is guilty of murder. The police are guilty only of poor aim, which is not the same thing.

If the doctors volunteer to be human shields, and die in the process, their blood is on their own heads, and there is no atrocity.

Note that if their cooperation is coerced by Hamas (”stay here or we’ll kill your whole families”), that is an atrocity by Hamas, and, if they die, they were murdered by Hamas.


28 posted on 10/30/2023 8:35:34 PM PDT by Keb
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Kill them all.


35 posted on 10/30/2023 8:45:16 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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It doesn’t matter. Somebody gamed this to multiple outcomes.

Bombing a hospital will generate one of those outcomes.


37 posted on 10/30/2023 8:53:43 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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