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DeSantis CRUSHED by Trump in Latest Florida, Iowa and New Hampshire Polls: ‘He’s Losing EVERYWHERE’
The Messenger ^ | 10/04/23 05:13 PM ET | Marc Caputo

Posted on 10/04/2023 3:10:21 PM PDT by conservative98

In the clash of the two Florida men, former president Donald Trump is beating Ron DeSantis by 35 percentage points, according to a new poll of Republican presidential primary voters that underscores the challenges the governor’s faces in his home state and the early states.

“Where DeSantis has been governor and the people know him best, he still can’t beat Trump. And if DeSantis can’t win in his own backyard, where can he win?” asked top Republican pollster Tony Fabrizio, who conducted the survey for a private political client. Fabrizio also surveys for the pro-Trump super PAC, but other pollsters say his Florida numbers jibe with the trend lines of the race.

The poll of 500 Florida Republicans, which shows the other presidential candidates polling in single digits, comes on the heels of the Republican Party of Florida executive committee’s decision last month to nix a party loyalty oath at Trump’s behest. DeSantis allies tried to keep the oath in place, but Trump’s support is so deep in the grassroots that the governor was steamrolled.

 Trump’s 57-22% lead over DeSantis in the Fabrizio poll is one of his biggest yet in Florida, and it shows a structural problem for DeSantis in the GOP, where 90% hold a favorable view of him and 76% say they have a “very favorable” opinion of the governor.

But among the latter group, DeSantis is losing to Trump 61-27%. That result, reflected in other surveys, undercuts the governor’s core campaign argument that his high favorable ratings will lead Republicans to support him over Trump.

 “A majority of the people in Florida who like Ron DeSantis the best still want Donald Trump to be president, not DeSantis,” said Fabrizio. “Where does DeSantis go for votes?”

DeSantis’s answer: Iowa, the first state to vote in the GOP primary, where he has spent the most time and resources and is moving campaign staff.

But a new poll from a pro-DeSantis political committee shows he’s being badly beaten in Iowa as well by Trump, 50-19% — 4 points shy of Trump’s margin over DeSantis in the Fabrizio Florida poll as well as national surveys. That pro-DeSantis Iowa showed former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley climbing into third place with 11%.

In a sign of his struggles in the early state, DeSantis’s campaign announced Wednesday that it was moving staff from Tallahassee to Iowa ahead of the Jan. 15 caucus.

DeSantis’s time in Iowa it has partly come at the expense of his presence in New Hampshire, where four of the last five polls show him slipping into third place behind Haley, who has shined at the previous two debates where DeSantis allies had hoped he would do better.

The most recent New Hampshire survey, taken by Suffolk University for USA Today and released Wednesday shows Trump leading Haley 49-18% with DeSantis falling to third at 10%.

“What is it with Florida politicians? They look great on paper but they really struggle against Donald Trump,” Suffolk pollster David Paleologos said, noting that Trump in 2016 beat Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and former Gov. Jeb Bush in the Republican presidential primary.

But it’s not just Florida Republicans who have trouble with Trump in their home states – both Haley and Sen. Tim Scott are losing to Trump in South Carolina primary polling.

Kevin Wagner, a pollster for Florida Atlantic University, last surveyed the Republican primary in Florida in June and found DeSantis trailing Trump by 20 points. Wagner said the polling by Fabrizio in Florida sounds plausible because it tracks with the trends in the race in other states.

 “The question in this race was how much of DeSantis’s support was derivative of Trump. And the answer appears to be: a lot,” Wagner said. “He’s starting to step up his criticisms of Trump on the campaign trail, but considering the overlap with Trump support he has, I’m not sure it will work for him.”
 

Fabrizio said the DeSantis campaign has had “a theory a day over they’re not losing. But the numbers don’t lie The fact is DeSantis is losing badly in Florida. He’s losing badly in Iowa. He’s losing badly in New Hampshire, in South Carolina, across the nation. He’s losing everywhere.”



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1 posted on 10/04/2023 3:10:21 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-desantis-polls-florida-iowa-new-hampshire


2 posted on 10/04/2023 3:10:38 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

please clap
3 posted on 10/04/2023 3:11:15 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

“The question in this race was how much of DeSantis’s support was derivative of Trump. And the answer appears to be: a lot,” Wagner said.

Trump turned Florida red, not Desantis. pic.twitter.com/RkNw8IlPra— johnny maga (@_johnnymaga) October 4, 2023


4 posted on 10/04/2023 3:15:24 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

📊 2024 Florida Republican Primary

• Trump — 57% (+35)
• DeSantis — 22%
• Haley — 7%
• Christie — 2%
• Pence — 1%
• Scott — 1%
• Ramaswamy — 1%

@Fabrizio_Lee (pro-Trump pollster)
• October 1-3 | 500 likely voters https://t.co/vNxnDlfZtf— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) October 4, 2023


5 posted on 10/04/2023 3:16:11 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

but Reno, but Reno....lol


6 posted on 10/04/2023 3:18:53 PM PDT by patriot torch (..)
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To: conservative98

“Where does DeSantis go for votes?”

2028.


7 posted on 10/04/2023 3:19:57 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself. 111 is the key.)
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To: conservative98

If the primary is over, why is DJT still campaigning against RDS?


8 posted on 10/04/2023 3:21:23 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: conservative98

I just saw the Desantis today. And I thought he was great.


9 posted on 10/04/2023 3:28:24 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: conservative98
Don't feel bad.

President Trump IS, without a doubt . . . THE CHOICE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

disclaimer;

Democrats are not American.

There is no empirical evidence Democrats are American

10 posted on 10/04/2023 3:28:51 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . . . I have no proof, but they're true !)
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To: conservative98

If DeSantis could be SO mislead by the Bush/Rove gang, just think of what the Washington swamp would do to him.


11 posted on 10/04/2023 3:30:11 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: conservative98

But, but Meatball won re-election by 20 Points in FLA
Go back to being a Full Time Governor Ronnie.
You are not very good at National Politics.


12 posted on 10/04/2023 3:32:55 PM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: ryderann
If DeSantis could be SO mislead by the Bush/Rove gang, just think of what the Washington swamp would do to him.

He has squandered tbe goodwill and future opportunity he had by running now.

2028 will never happen for this disloyal post turtle.

13 posted on 10/04/2023 3:33:04 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: RaceBannon

And yet...he’s getting steamrolled.


14 posted on 10/04/2023 3:34:25 PM PDT by Herodes
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To: patriot torch

He should have stayed in Florida like Youngkin stayed in Virginia. He was simply to greedy.


15 posted on 10/04/2023 3:40:34 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: conservative98

DeSantis is upset that no one’s paying attention to him. A natural born leader like Trump simply finds a way to get people’s attention.


16 posted on 10/04/2023 3:41:53 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Well lately he has been focusing a bit more on niki haley as her numbers are up


17 posted on 10/04/2023 3:42:04 PM PDT by ckilmer (ui)
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18 posted on 10/04/2023 3:43:02 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: conservative98

is he hanging on expecting the dems to take out Trump?


19 posted on 10/04/2023 3:43:14 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: conservative98

Take a listen to this butthurt jackass from Texas.

https://twitter.com/search?q=Chip%20roy&src=recent_search_click&f=top


20 posted on 10/04/2023 3:48:15 PM PDT by dforest
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