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12,700 United Auto Workers Call Unprecedented Strike at All Three Detroit Automakers Despite Auto Output Falling -7.60% YoY In August (Biden To Mumble, Get Angry, Tell A Family Story On Friday)
Confounded Interest ^ | 09/15/2023 | Anthony B. Sanders

Posted on 09/15/2023 7:30:24 AM PDT by Kaiser8408a

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To: Jonty30

“The automakers and the union would be better off to try and figure how to improve the productivity of each position in order to pay more.”

The auto industry is very efficient.

The problem is that federal regulations have made cars very complex. To pay fair wages the vehicles meeting those regulations are going to be expensive.

The automakers are also having EV tooling costs as well as taking on high EV product risks.


21 posted on 09/15/2023 8:05:03 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Jonty30

Exactly. A salary isn’t a gift, it’s not what you think you deserve. It is fraction of what your work earns the company.

While there is no universally defined percentage for a “good” Payroll to Revenue Ratio, a commonly cited guideline is that labor costs should ideally account for 15-30% of total revenue.


22 posted on 09/15/2023 8:08:33 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: Brian Griffin

I know they are. They’ve made a science, for the last 70 years, on how to be as efficient as possible. However, for a position to pay, you have to generate wealth in excess of your age in order to make it affordable to pay you that wage. If you didn’t have to, we all could have multimillion dollar contracts no matter what we do for a living.

The only way to fix this is to figure how to make each position more productive, however that should be done.

Yes, EV’s are a waste of money. I am a fan of exploring hybrids and see how far we can go with them, but not full-on EV’s. I don’t believe, outside of us discovering some currently unknown science law or materials, of making EV’s anywhere near comparable to a gas car.


23 posted on 09/15/2023 8:11:16 AM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: Kaiser8408a

They’re doing it so Biden can ride in and save the day and get a gold star.


24 posted on 09/15/2023 8:13:14 AM PDT by mykroar (what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how. - J0eStalin)
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To: Sacajaweau

They made more than $18 in the 1990’s.


25 posted on 09/15/2023 8:27:02 AM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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To: Kaiser8408a

I know they are demanding pay raises, but that doesn’t help much when they don’t have jobs. EVs have far fewer components/parts than regular automobiles. That means fewer workers. Is the UAW demanding the curtailment of EV manufacturing? There’s only so many parking lots they can fill with unsold EVs. When the lots are full the assembly lines will be closed.


26 posted on 09/15/2023 8:34:51 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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To: Kaiser8408a

Looks like they are striking the factories that make real vehicles, the ones the companies are actually making money on. Excellent!


27 posted on 09/15/2023 8:44:08 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Kaiser8408a

The big three are just a shadow of their former glory. And even they make some cars abroad. This may be the last hurrah of the UAW.
Automakers cannot give workers too much since they need to invest in EV, forced on them by Biden!
So the UAW better vote Republican, before Biden puts them out of business.


28 posted on 09/15/2023 9:04:10 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: Kaiser8408a

Unprecedented?

While I couldn’t tell you when the last strike happened…I know that a UAW strike is not “unprecedented.”


29 posted on 09/15/2023 9:10:02 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: moovova

Slow Joe finds it almost impossible to pass a hot mike or a camera without bringing up his dead son.


30 posted on 09/15/2023 9:19:24 AM PDT by VideoPaul
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To: Kaiser8408a

The companies should just close all their factories, except the ones that make electric cars. Show the union thugs their future if they keep voting Democrat.


31 posted on 09/15/2023 9:55:50 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Kaiser8408a

Under worked and over paid UAW cry babies....

Fire them all.


32 posted on 09/15/2023 10:16:43 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: Kaiser8408a

The best car out of Detroit right now is the Corvette Z06.
Unions and poor planning by Executives could doom it to oblivion.

I considered buying one but its too wide for my garage.
Got a Porsche 911 Turbo S instead.


33 posted on 09/15/2023 10:26:28 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Kaiser8408a

I have no sympathy for Union people. I remember back in the 70’s Armco Steel laid off most of their workers because steel was not selling. Then after many months, they called most of them back. What is the first thing they did? Go on strike. Really smart to finally get back to work and then bite the hand that feeds you.


34 posted on 09/15/2023 10:28:57 AM PDT by wbslws
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To: Kaiser8408a

Health care workers are next. September 30.


35 posted on 09/15/2023 10:42:37 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: Kaiser8408a

It’s insane that it’s legal for (union) employees to take deliberate actions that will inflict financial damage on their employer’s business.

Repeal the 1935 NLRA already and make labor unions liable to the Sherman Antitrust Act.


36 posted on 09/15/2023 12:12:30 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Kaiser8408a

Buy Tesla stock.


37 posted on 09/15/2023 12:57:31 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Ruling class noticed our total lack of pushback on Covid & jailed Jan 6th protesters.)
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To: Kaiser8408a

EV parts - those should be pretty cheap, no?


38 posted on 09/15/2023 1:07:56 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Kaiser8408a

And they wonder why jobs go overseas


39 posted on 09/15/2023 1:19:37 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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To: Kaiser8408a

They’re not going to be content until 100% of auto jobs are outside the USA.


40 posted on 09/15/2023 1:23:00 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Looks like I'll have to buy the White Album again.)
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