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3 Reasons There’s Something Sinister With the Big Push for Electric Vehicles
Liberty Daily ^ | By Nick Giambruno, International Man • Sep. 5, 2023

Posted on 09/05/2023 5:43:12 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: exnavy
The switch to ev’s is just another way to control the lower class by the ruling class. Like everything, follow the money.

Not to mention, there will be a financial cutoff at some point where some classes of people will NOT be able to afford to purchase or operate an EV. These people will be forced to rely on public transportation or potential ride-sharing. They may be forced to walk, ride bicycles, mopeds or scooters. In some cities, this will mean gravitating from the suburbs to city, for living and working.

It's all about the control.

41 posted on 09/05/2023 7:32:41 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Red Badger

“Consistent with EPA’s traditional approach to establishing pollution standards for power plants under section 111 of the Clean Air Act, the proposed standards are based on technologies such as
carbon capture and sequestration/storage (CCS)
low-GHG hydrogen co-firing”

https://www.epa.gov/stationary-sources-air-pollution/greenhouse-gas-standards-and-guidelines-fossil-fuel-fired-power

“Base load affected facilities that follow the CCS pathway must meet a second phase standard based on 90% capture of CO2, using CCS, by 2035”

“Baseload affected facilities that follow the low-GHG hydrogen pathway must meet a second phase standard based on co-firing 30% low-GHG hydrogen by volume by 2032 and a third phase standard based on cofiring 96% by volume low-GHG hydrogen by 2038”

https://www.epa.gov/system/files/documents/2023-05/FS-OVERVIEW-GHG-for%20Power%20Plants%20FINAL%20CLEAN.pdf

In plain English, electricity is going to get far more expensive.


42 posted on 09/05/2023 7:34:28 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Lou L

“there will be a financial cutoff at some point where some classes of people will NOT be able to afford to purchase or operate an EV.”

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43 posted on 09/05/2023 7:37:50 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Red Badger

Sinister= evil. CAFE has to go too.


44 posted on 09/05/2023 7:44:09 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Sacajaweau

Windmills, Solar Panels, Ocean Waves and Microwave Satellites.........and a lot of Unicorns with IBS................


45 posted on 09/05/2023 7:45:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

They were never planning to

replace billions of ICE vehicles...

they are planning on

eliminating billions of ICE drivers.

7


46 posted on 09/05/2023 7:49:22 AM PDT by infool7 (Those that make peaceful (counter)revolution impossible make violent rebellion inevitable. - JFK)
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To: TomGuy

No.

This artificial 2030 ‘deadline’ will be pushed back and back and back until it becomes the literal joke that it is.............


47 posted on 09/05/2023 7:50:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: A_perfect_lady

A wise man once said, “The only way to defeat a Liberal is to give them everything they want.”...................


48 posted on 09/05/2023 7:51:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
--- " ...President Biden's plan to have 50% of cars sold in the US be electric by 2030. "

Aside from outright market manipulation and subsidies benefiting the EV manufacturers and the component supply companies, one thinks to those pictures from Castro's Cuba, wherein "old" cars were kept running by very creative mechanics in the face of "market" shortages and such.

We've two older vehicles which we intend to keep running with regular maintenance by our local garage, although we are fortunate enough to buy with cash new "EV" models. Won't happen. Don't need them. The Cummins diesel Dodge hums along brilliantly.

As to Biden's (and Obama's) strategy:

US EV market struggles with price cuts and rising inventories
Source: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/slow-selling-evs-are-auto-industrys-new-headache-2023-07-11/

EV's becoming less popular for car buyers, survey shows. Here's why.
Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2023/07/27/ev-concerns-ease-fewer-people-want-to-own/70469087007/

All the Buttigieg Marxists in the world -- as proven by those wacky Castro Marxists for decades -- isn't going to change things.

But they'll keep trying. And they'll keep failing. Cuba has already shown the 'future' -- and they did it 'yesterday'.

49 posted on 09/05/2023 7:53:49 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: infool7

The ultimate endgame:

1> Smaller Earth population, by 75%+.

2> What population is left will be stationary for the vast majority.

3> The population that is left will be reigned over by an iron-fist in a velvet glove, wielded by the elite and their progeny, less than 10% of the population.

4> The entire world will be divided into 10 socio-economic provinces that are controlled by a Central World Government.................


50 posted on 09/05/2023 7:59:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

There will still be multitudes of ICE Vehicles around in 2030, but there will be little or no fuels available to run them. Gas stations will be few and far between.

And what fuels are available will be so costly that no average American can buy them...............


51 posted on 09/05/2023 8:03:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
--- "Gas stations will be few and far between. And what fuels are available will be so costly that no average American can buy them..............."

I can't see the same future you foretell. Long before that happens, an awakening -- perhaps multiple awakenings -- will intervene.

I agree that there is an "average American," and that average American is currently 1) going from paycheck to paycheck, 2) in debt and, 3) in numbers approaching 60 % of the population, earning less than about $60K a year. For these constraints, "buy an EV or else" simply cannot "fly."

Additionally all the energy producers and distributors will act in defense of their investments.

Many small rebellions are brewing, as the small lessons of Bud Lite, Disney and more show from the consumer side of things. From the simple economics of it all, Solyndra (past) is now Proterra (present tense) the same "California" collapse, as government "investment" is proving fatal to all but the few and well-connected. Rebellions are brewing.

The largest of them weighs in currently at almost $33 trillion, with the "odometer" showing full speed ahead -- into collapse. Out the other side, those energy companies will still want to produce and sell, because there is ultimately no other choice.

Obviously we see things through different lenses, but I think we agree the clear answer is to topple the Democrats as a first order of business. Best wishes.

52 posted on 09/05/2023 8:14:20 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Yo-Yo
Add to that the additional electricity from having to replace your natural gas furnace and water heater with electric heat pump versions, and your gas stove and clothes dryer with electric models.
The norm today new construction single family homes is 200 amp service. With all of these mandates, you will now need a 400 amp main service panel, and the infrastructure in your neighborhood to support all of the homes going from 150-200 amp service to 400-500 amp service.

I agree 100% with the premise of the article that the government shouldn't be pushing everybody to EV's and get rid of natural gas. I hate it for multiple reasons. But I respectfully disagree with your assessment of the micro details on what it means to an individual home. If conservatives like us want to argue against government totalitarianism, we ought to do so with real world data so we don't look bad.

I have a 200 amp service and two years ago I converted my two natural gas appliances to electric (replaced nat gas furnace and A/C with a variable speed heat pump, and replaced nat gas water heater with hybrid water heater). And 15 months ago, since it was time to replace my wife's ICE crossover we replaced it with an EV crossover. I didn't do it to save the world from cow fart warmageddon or anything like that. I did it to make us more self-reliant with energy by also adding lots of solar. (If I could produce my own natural gas or oil and refine it to gasoline I would, but I can't. However solar allows me to provide 82% of all the power we consume. So being all-electric is attractive to me from a self-reliance standpoint.) I also did other more conventional energy saving steps we probably all should do more of like caulk sealing cracks around windows, replacing old gaskets around doors, and adding insulation.

My electrical panel has to provide power to the all-electric home, including charging the EV (roughly 22K miles per year charged at home) regardless of if the power is coming from solar and/or the battery stack and/or the grid. There are nights in the winter that all of my power is coming from the grid. (Most of the 18% of the power I pull from the grid throughout the year is in the winter months.) My two inverters pull power from those 3 sources (solar/batteries/grid) and supply the electrical panel with AC power. The electrical panel functions like it always has without caring if the power is coming from the grid or somewhere else.

Admittedly, this is in Alabama and is a 2,300 sq ft home. Maybe up north an electric furnace in the winter would have to draw way more power than mine does (I'm sure it would run more often than mine does). But, and this is anecdotal, last December we had lows in the single digits and highs in the teens for a couple days in a row. So my home heater was on a lot all day and keeping my home warm while not overloading my electrical panel. (And since it was near the Christmas holidays and not snowing, we were driving and charging the EV a lot too. Yet my electrical panel kept up.)

53 posted on 09/05/2023 8:17:07 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Additionally all the energy producers and distributors will act in defense of their investments.

Nationalization....For 'National Security'........Stroke of the pen, law of the land........

54 posted on 09/05/2023 8:21:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

All you have to do is walk away from EVs by NOT purchasing them.


55 posted on 09/05/2023 8:45:37 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: Tom Tetroxide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDfrW5cWqMU


56 posted on 09/05/2023 8:51:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Buying an EV contributes to the loss of freedom in the USA.


57 posted on 09/05/2023 8:53:32 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself. 111 is the key.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

That warm and fuzzy feeling you get when you by an EV is your house burning down..........................


58 posted on 09/05/2023 8:56:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Consider what a green utopia will look like. For the peons it will mean a standard of living on par with 100 years ago. Get used to hanging your washing out to dry on a clothesline, electricity is rationed so a few lights a fridge and a single TV is all you will get most days. Your $40,000 EV will only get a charge on certain days and times…think of gas rationing during WW-II. Blackouts will be common particularly during hot weather and cold winters. Expect to be swelter on hot days and freezing during the winter as indoor climate control will be mandated out of existence. Of course your travel will be restricted as you charging ration of of electricity will likely be tied to your social credit score. Any public criticism of the uni party will mean you will be walking or waiting for government run mass transit. Get used to eating synthetic foods as meat will be banned as well as hunting. Local farms that used to offer fresh produce will be regulated out of existence…only your government approved foods will be allowed.

Of course the ruling class and liberal elites will continue to enjoy the good life, fly in private jets to where ever they want, be driven in limousines and enjoy fine foods, air conditioning, warm homes and every other good thing we used to take for granted and are now denied.


59 posted on 09/05/2023 9:01:34 AM PDT by The Great RJ ( )
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To: The Great RJ

1984 leads to 1789......................


60 posted on 09/05/2023 9:08:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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