Posted on 08/31/2023 7:42:11 PM PDT by Ozguy1945
He wouldnt have threatened Jane she was the mother of a boy Edward the 6th...
Patton knew her.
She was only the mother of a son for 12 days. He supposedly told her not to meddle in his affairs like the “late queen” when she was interceding for the rebels in the Pilgrimage of Grace, iirc. It was well before she was pregnant.
Revisionist much?….
I’m sure you know that’s not a picture of her…..that’s Genevieve Bujold
From every account Ive read of the historic Anne she was a conniving, manipulative, scheming flirt who led Henry on a merry chase…..
….and was significant in turning him against his onetime friend, Thomas More….
….I think the King’s brutish decision to behead More eventually led to his decision to turn against Anne
She essentially was ‘hoisted by her own petard!’
Thomas More acknowledged Anne Boleyn as anointed queen and accepted that her children would be heirs to the throne. What condemned him was that he couldn’t accept Henry VIII as head of the Church of England, so he couldn’t accept the Act of Succession because it would have meant repudiating the Pope.
Anne Boleyn was lots of things - religious, educated, sophisticated, interested in Tyndall and reformation as well as possibly manipulative and flirtatious. But I don’t believe she started the relationship with Henry, believing she would become queen. That would have been unheard of. She definitely did not want to be his mistress.
From her portraits she wasn’t a beauty, pretty much average. Supposedly she was vivacious and flirtatious though which charmed Henry. Beauty wasn’t a requirement for a royal wife, bloodlines were. Henry had mistresses for the beauty part. He did, however, reject one wife because she was too homely, Anne of Cleves. He was to marry her sight unseen based upon a portrait that had been shown him and the artist had taken it upon himself to make her look better than she did in person. Anne was by all accounts a wonderful person so in the end it was likely Henry’s loss.
She was not a nice lady.
“Patton knew her.”
The general.
That one has gone past my understanding like a great fastball to someone batting out of his league.
Thank you.
Thank you for your thoughts.
Nowadays photographers and apps make lots of people look better than they really look.
An interesting problem with history is that it's, as they say, written by the victors.
Considering the lengths our government has been going through today to censor, I can only imagine how much easier it would've been with relatively few people who could write and those that could were working for, or with, the government.
I like this lady that tells their history and also recreates how they look:
Here is her episode on AB:
https://youtu.be/cetGiQPYRAU?si=jGxoUd6-KiPzHf34
She died
Yikes!
The six wives:
Divorced, beheaded, died
Divorce, beheaded survived.
They all died.
The point was that Henry didn’t curb his tongue with Jane because she was the mother of his legitimate son. It took nine months of their marriage for her to become pregnant, so that was plenty of time.
If Henry the VIIIth. had known that the male determines the sex of the baby, would he have killed himself?
Inquiring minds want to know!
“If Henry the VIIIth. had known that the male determines the sex of the baby, would he have killed himself?
Inquiring minds want to know!”
This is a sensational question.
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