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Bulgarian Tea Party: How CIA Supplies Ukraine with white phosphorus
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Posted on 08/21/2023 6:08:49 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe

Today we’d like to talk about Bulgaria again and shed light on another CIA’s gray scheme for arms smuggling. American intelligence services managed to establish an unofficial channel for the procurement and supply of arms and ammunition from Bulgaria to Ukraine, bypassing the U.S. Congress as well as ignoring the opinion of ordinary Americans.

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This document reveals that Noetic International Inc. searches for and purchases certain weapons and ammunition among foreign arms companies at the request of two unnamed clients in Ukraine. The military goods include not only MLRS, howitzers and standard fragmentation projectiles, but also 155mm white phosphorus rounds, notorious for its use during the Yugoslav Wars.

White phosphorus causes severe burns and irritation, liver, kidney, heart, lung or bone damage, and death. The Geneva Convention prohibits the use of white phosphorus shells against civil targets. Protocol III of the UN Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons also does explicitly prohibit the use of white phosphorus.

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We, as in the US, will pay a price for this. The question is--will it be an analog to the bank bailouts of 2008, where the financial sector privatized the gains, but socialized the losses.

Of note is where the corporate office was located (think 'Cheney')

1 posted on 08/21/2023 6:08:49 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Tench_Coxe

Defeating Ruzzia now means my grandchildren won’t be payying for yet another Cold War. It’s money well spent to finally put and end to the Red menace.


2 posted on 08/21/2023 6:18:05 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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Why not?
This isn’t “arms smuggling”. The US and other countries in NATO have been buying military equipment and ammo in third countries for Ukraine from the beginning. Many weapons manufacturers even advertise Ukraine as their customers.
Bulgaria is a special case only because of their domestic politics, but the Bulgarian government tacitly approves.
As for WP, the Russians used it from the beginning. Turnabout is fair play.


3 posted on 08/21/2023 6:21:21 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: MeganC
Defeating Ruzzia now means my grandchildren won’t be payying for yet another Cold War. It’s money well spent to finally put and end to the Red menace.

To have avoided "another Cold War," all the U.S. need have done is welcomed Russia as a friend after 1991, just as it welcomed West Germany and Japan as friends after 1945.

Instead, the Neocons wanted to crush and humiliate Russia.

Neocons also sent "economic advisers" from the Ivy League to create a new class of oligarchs, who then financially raped the Russian people.

Putin's a thug, but at least he's a Russia First thug.

Which is more than can be said about our own Neocon Glob-Homo rulers, who hate the American people, hate Christianity, and are trashing our country and its culture.

4 posted on 08/21/2023 6:35:00 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Tench_Coxe

https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/weapons-industry-booms-as-eastern-europe-arms-ukraine/


5 posted on 08/21/2023 6:36:22 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Angelino97

The US did welcome Russia. The US gifted Russia MFN (most favored nation) tarriff status in 1996. China had to wait till 2022.

Russia got vast amounts of foreign investment in the 1990s.

And then Putin turned against it. I suppose he figured Russia was making so much from petroleum it didn’t need to play nice anymore.


6 posted on 08/21/2023 6:40:31 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Tench_Coxe
I loved the old free USA, but it's gone for good.

There cannot be peace in the world until the USA is dismantled like the Austro-Hungarian Empire after the First World War.

7 posted on 08/21/2023 6:45:06 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: buwaya

Typo. 2002 MFN for China. MFN is the prize, the ticket to make money selling stuff to the US.


8 posted on 08/21/2023 6:47:53 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Angelino97

“To have avoided “another Cold War,” all the U.S. need have done is welcomed Russia as a friend after 1991, just as it welcomed West Germany and Japan as friends after 1945.”

And that’s what happened. The US helped Russia safely dispose of millions of tons of chemical weapons, we helped them reprocess old nuclear material into nuclear fuel that they sold for a profit, we invested in Russia creating millions of good jobs...and then Putin took power and now the USSR is struggling to rise from the grave.

Newt Gingrich at one time even wanted Russia to join NATO!

That ended with Putin. Now it’s time to put an end to Ruzzian aggression and Ruzzian imperialism and if someone can kill Putin then all the better! So much better than letting him go on trial in The Hague.


9 posted on 08/21/2023 6:52:56 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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--- "means my grandchildren won’t be payying for yet another Cold War. It’s money well spent to finally put and end to the Red menace."

An interesting assertion. Since budget entires on the US government are not individual, but ultimately aggregate together, our grandchildren will be paying, no matter what. The only remaining question is -- how much?

Assuming our grandikds will not be on the public dole, but rather be taxpayers instead, they already on the hook for about $253,686 per "kid." Today. Right now. Even those not yet born.

Source: https://www.usdebtclock.org/

So let's just put everything on the national credit card. As easily documented:

$32,715,705,565,478 and rising rapidly.
That's not GDP.... That's what the US owes as against its GDP, of late circa $26.854 trillion.

"...money well spent." So some say.

10 posted on 08/21/2023 6:56:30 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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It’s money well spent to finally put and end to the Red menace.

What!!???!??

The USA is becoming "the red menace".

Russians are more free than we are now.

If we get our tires wet in the wrong place, the wetland police fine us $5000.

In Russia, you go have fun in the mud.

Religion? In the USA Christians are being marginalized, not in Russia.

11 posted on 08/21/2023 7:06:19 AM PDT by Mogger
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“In the USA Christians are being marginalized, not in Russia.”

https://religiousfreedominstitute.org/relentless-religious-persecution-in-russia/

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/01/17/russia-named-list-50-countries-in-which-christians-face-persecution-a64171

https://arriveministries.org/living-as-a-persecuted-christian-in-russia/

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2019/july/german-court-asylum-russian-baptist-persecution.html

https://www.baptistpress.com/resource-library/news/religious-persecution-grows-in-russias-war-on-ukraine-u-s-hearing-says/


12 posted on 08/21/2023 7:16:25 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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--- "Religion? In the USA Christians are being marginalized, not in Russia."

I imagine the better formulation would be "Christians are being marginalized" worldwide, as one broadens the field of view. Picking one nation and if "versus" another blinds the eye to so many nations being involved in this, here and there alike. And yes, to some extent, here in our own US of A. Sad.

13 posted on 08/21/2023 7:36:56 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Russia got vast amounts of foreign investment in the 1990s.

Well-connected oligarchs got those investments.

Initially, the Russian people got shares in privatized Soviet industry. But the people were poor, desperate, and economically ignorant.

Well-connected oligarchs (i.e., those with access to Western capital) bought up those shares for pennies.

A win-win for oligarchs and Wall Street. And the second time the Russian people had been financially raped in this century. First by the Bolsheviks, then by the Globalists.

14 posted on 08/21/2023 8:04:29 AM PDT by Angelino97
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Newt Gingrich at one time even wanted Russia to join NATO!

Doesn't matter what Newt wanted. What matters is, did NATO actually invite Russia to join?

I've always heard that Russia wanted to join NATO, but the Neocons blocked them. So Russia was never able to join.

15 posted on 08/21/2023 8:10:56 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97; All

NATO has been obsolete ever since the USSR collapsed!

Pumping life into this corpse by getting this DEFENSIVE alliance to do offensive actions like Serbia, Libya & Afghanistan is ludicrous and dangerous. Serbia and Libya, etc. were done for US domestic political consumption. All this does is show how defunct the organization actually is! An organization looking for a mission is one that gets it and us into trouble!

New security arrangements need to be made for Europe! One where the major role is taken up by Europeans not the US. (Eisenhower said if we are still here meaning in the lead role in 25 years, we’ve failed!) There even might be several, maybe 3 regional interlocking security treaties. The US can be a member, maybe a have friendly observation status like Sweden did for years in NATO, or not be a member at all!


16 posted on 08/21/2023 8:24:55 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: MeganC

When you go out hunting monsters, you never run out of them.

One question, what did Russia ever do to you? They were our allies in 1776, in WW 1 and WW 2. So they built a Wall in Berlin, that has been gone longer than the average age of Americans. We can have peace, all we have to do is defend our border and be an example to the world.

Get back to me when America is invaded.

It’s happening all the time? Why don’t we stop that?

WW 1 did not need us to kill or die, WW 2 never happens without intervention by the US in WW 1, and every thing that has happened since is OUR FAULT. We USED to be a self styled country of people who minded our own business. Walked quiet and proud, but carried the means and knowledge to thump you if you tried to change us. Well the Military Industrial Complex runs the US now, we are not safer, or more peaceful.

I don’t mean this personally, but I wish all of the war hawks would just die off and leave people in PEACE.


17 posted on 08/21/2023 8:51:19 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: Tench_Coxe

More evidence we’ve become the new evil empire.


18 posted on 08/21/2023 8:57:58 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Glad2bnuts

The Russians were not our allies in WW2. We helped them and then they tried to help themselves to half of Europe, half of Japan, and more.

The US & UK were idiots for helping the Russians in that war...a war which the Russians FACILITATED by promising their Nazi friends a free hand in Poland.

Now Russia wants to bring back the USSR and lay claim to the parts of Europe they enslaved for nearly half a century. Screw that.

It is far better to make them exhaust their diminishing supplies of functional Soviet era weapons and then dictate terms to them.


19 posted on 08/21/2023 9:21:40 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Angelino97

Russia got foreign investment mainly to build out its petroleum and gas industries, which have since been the basis of its economy and government revenue. If these industries ended up in the hands of oligarchs, the various waves of “reform” in Russia have merely changed the cast of characters that make up these oligarchs.

None of this was the doing of “Wall Street”. Foreign capital merely dealt with whomever was in power, as usual. It was Russians that chose who was in power. And that is still the case.

Now you have a country with vast revenues and very valuable assets. This was a benefit the “west” gave to Russia. The ownership of these assets and the distribution of these revenues are purely Russian problems.


20 posted on 08/21/2023 9:23:19 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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