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Candidate Ron DeSantis Says MAGA Supporters Are “listless vessels” Who “follow whatever comes down the pike on Truth Social”
The Last Refuge ^ | August 19, 2023 | Sundance

Posted on 08/20/2023 11:05:17 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

Feeling empowered after his boost from Georgia Republican Governor Brian Kemp, a man of notoriously intemperate disposition, presidential candidate Ron DeSantis begins the process to align himself with the neocon establishment and labeling Donald Trump supporters as “listless vessels” devoid of principle, who simply “follow whatever comes down the pike from Truth Social every morning.”

Appearing with a young millennial wearing a beaver tail on his head, namely Will Witt from the Florida Standard, Ron DeSantis outlines his opinion that the MAGA movement is only driven by the support of President Donald Trump, a person who has exhausted his usefulness in awakening the electorate. As a result, the high-minded superior intellects of the Republican Party now need to step in, reestablish the core values of the conservative movement, and put the squirming MAGA children in their play pens.

You can watch the entire interview below; I’m just prompting it to the part that best highlights the sanctimonious arrogance of a dim-witted candidate who really doesn’t carry his own policies, only those of the managers and branding consultants that create his talking points. WATCH:

What the insufferable DeSantis and his branding/image consultants pretend not to know, is that President Trump’s America First policies are the driving force behind the MAGA movement. Those policies consist of three main attributes that are non-existent in any other candidate:

Immigration. The construct of a southern border wall, denial of illegal entry and a return to immigration border controls that block illegal aliens.

Economics. The implementation of MAGAnomics that puts incentives behind Made In America. Baseline tariffs on all imports. The removal of the 70-year-old one-way Marshal plan for tariffs on USA products into the EU. Reciprocal tariffs against all nations who participate in bilateral Free Trade Agreements, and a return to America first manufacturing independence.

Foreign Policy. The withdrawal of USA interventionist foreign policy. The respect of national borders and national policies that are the outcome of the independent will of people within sovereign nations. The primary responsibility of NATO funding, support and activity, to the member states of the European Union. The use of USA economic strength as a national security weapon.

Those three pillars form the baseline of the America First policy that President Trump represents. No other candidate comes even close to the policies therein. President Trump represents the vessel we are using to force the professional political class to accept these policy priorities. MAGA is a set of policies uniquely attributed to President Trump, because only Trump willingly represents those policies.

The GOPe know this; so too does Ron DeSantis and his handlers. Every candidate in the Republican field understands this set of policies, and they have been paid by the multinational donors to pretend they do not know. Their collective GOPe mission is to destroy the policy platform; therefore, they must attack the core of the Trump supporters by pretending not to know.

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To: Wayne07
https://dailycaller.com/2023/08/17/exclusive-utah-rep-former-nfl-star-burgess-owens-blasts-biden-announces-2024-endorsement-trump/

Don't be dishonest!

Re-read that statement.

In context, he directly implied that Trump supporters where "listless vessels".

Why is the objective truth such a problem for DeSantimonious Supporters/
61 posted on 08/20/2023 2:11:31 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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To: Mr.Unique
False.

Folks should watch the video.


Don't be dishonest!

Re-listen to that video.

In context, he directly implied that Trump supporters where "listless vessels".

Why is the objective truth such a problem for DeSantimonious Supporters?
62 posted on 08/20/2023 2:12:49 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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To: TBP
This is not what he actually said. it’s Magadonian propaganda.

B.S.!

Don't be dishonest.

He very clearly and directly is calling Trump Supporters "listless vessels".

Once again, why do DeSanctimonious Supporters have so much trouble about bad news where DeSantis is concerned? Why can't they be honest?
63 posted on 08/20/2023 2:14:51 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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To: Mr.Unique; SoConPubbie
What I posted on a very similar thread.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4176254/posts?page=60#60

“ Whoa there Freepers! Listen to the entire response! DeSantis does a pretty good job if not excellent.

Listen to entire response and tell me where this listless phrase is.

Frankly, DeSantis had a good and in-depth response. If I were the Dems I'd be sticking it to DeSantis not Trump.”

64 posted on 08/20/2023 2:21:26 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Chgogal
Listen to entire response and tell me where this listless phrase is.

I just listened to the video and it is crystal clear, and in context, that DeSantis was DIRECTLY implying that Trump Supporters were "listless vessels"

Quit defending the defenseless actions of your preferred candidate by twisting what everyone can read and hear into something else.
65 posted on 08/20/2023 2:23:10 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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To: SoConPubbie
I love Trump, period. I am not some over sensitive female who feels slighted every time someone hurts my little ol’ feelings. I have no idea what your excuse is for your massive overreaction.

This “listless” phrase took less than two seconds out of a 2+ minute response where DeSantis made some excellent points. Give the guy some credit. Now check you little hurt feelings at the door and man up. It's a world out there! If you can't handle this, you can't handle much.

66 posted on 08/20/2023 2:46:03 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: SoConPubbie

“It’s a world out there!” should read “It’s a tough world out there!”


67 posted on 08/20/2023 2:48:47 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Chgogal
I love Trump, period.

Why?

68 posted on 08/20/2023 2:49:49 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
Here is why.

Despite all the criticism of Trump's New York Style and his choices to head government agencies and cabinet members Trump was a success. Let's go down the Trump memory hole and review the Obama/Biden/Hillary impediments and Trump's successes.

To begin with there was the Hillary inspired Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax that was known to and thereby approved by the Obama/Biden Administration. Think about that, a previous POTUS purposely set out to obstruct an incoming administration. That has never happened in American history. This was unimaginable just 8 years ago.

Was Trump wrong March 2017, when he accused the Obama/Biden Administration of spying on him? No he was not, but who believed him? He was not being outrageous or narcissistic. Trump was accurate and told the truth. Don't forget Governor DeSantis was Congressman DeSantis. What did Congressman DeSantis do about all that Hillary/Obama crap from 2012 thru 2018? FYI, DeSantis chaired the Subcommittee on National Security (remember Benghazi?) and served on the Foreign Affairs (Hello Benghazi!!!) and Judiciary Committees.

Then there were the two Impeachments 1 and 2 and finally the Special Prosecutor Investigation. Impeachment 2 - Trump gets impeached for one phone call with Zelenskyy while Biden's Crime Family made millions off of Ukraine's corrupt company Burisma. Simply unbelievable!

Despite the despicable, malicious, and the bullying behavior of Obama, Biden and Hillary and the anemic RINO response, which recent POTUS was as successful as Trump? Name one Naughty Nurse!

Here is a shortlist of Trump's accomplishments in the 4 years that were positives for the majority of if not ALL Americans:

The gas price per gallon was about $2.30 vs $3.80 under Biden.
Inflation was about 1.4%, mortgage rates were half of what they are now.
Unemployment was low before Covid and before Blue Governors shut everything down and we were in the midst of a V-shaped recovery until January 22, 2021.
Tax decrease - tax laws promoted small businesses as well as large.
US enjoyed energy independence - No Green Agenda, no war on energy, No Paris Treaty.
No war in Ukraine, no threat of nuclear war, NATO paid its way.
China was quiet and we were winning the trade war.
US companies were bringing home well paying jobs due to well executed tax treatments.
There was peace in the Middle East, aka Abraham Accords; the US Embassy moved to Jerusalem; and Iran was isolated. Remember Trump's audacious assassination of Iran's Qassem Soleimani? How about Trump destroying Isis in just a matter on months? Trump handled Syria and Russia elegantly.
Trump got three non-left “I don't know what a woman is” Supreme Court Justices on the bench allowing Roe vs Wade to be overturned.

Trump had an excellent Economic Team and the US enjoyed a AAA+ rating that Biden's Team destroyed in 2+ years:

https://time.com/4440711/donald-trump-economic-advisors/

They were brilliant! And do not forget Wilbur Ross.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_Donald_Trump

Funny how Russia was quiet during the Trump Administration. There was no Russian invasion of Ukraine until Biden took over. Why was that?

I hope you remember this:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-summit-obama-medvedev-idUSBRE82P0JI20120326

This was a very memorable and strategic event early into Trump's Administration:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/12/trump-xi-jinping-chocolate-cake-syria-strikes

The above is why Putin behaved himself during the Trump Administration. Putin invaded the Ukraine under Biden just like he did under Obama when he claimed Crimea.

Who the heck can accomplish the above in four years while being impeached twice and investigated by the Obama/Biden Weaponized Agencies? Again, talk about “bullying”! Please, spare me!

Trump received 11 million more votes in 2020 over 2016. Never has a sitting President lost when receiving more votes in his reelection bid. Trump increased his vote total by 17+%. Trump can claim victory in 17 of the 18 bellwether counties but still “lost” according to the Dems/MSM?

Do you really believe that Bumbling Biden received 15 million more votes than Hillary? That is an amazing and unbelievable 23% increase in votes for Bumbling Biden than Hillary. The election was blatantly in your face stolen.

Face it, Trump did one hell of a job. DeSantis did a great job as Governor of Florida in his 1st Term. Let's see what he does in his 2nd term where I happily voted for him November 2022.

69 posted on 08/20/2023 2:59:51 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Deep State approved candidate Desantis, is showing everyone who he really is. 🙄


70 posted on 08/20/2023 3:05:14 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our was nation. Never be slave in a new Socialist America)
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To: Chgogal
Trump received 11 million more votes in 2020 over 2016

I'll question this part.

Yes. But he still lost.

In baseball, it doesn't matter how many hits you have. It's all about the runs.

Trump had less EVs in 2020 than he did in 2016.

71 posted on 08/20/2023 3:08:11 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
DeSantis will lose as well unless the “cheating” that took place in 2020 is not corrected.
72 posted on 08/20/2023 3:14:26 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Hope DeSantis isn’t now imitating Trump — the grand master of name calling and personal attacks. Why can’t they just get together and publicly vow to stop this BS?


73 posted on 08/20/2023 3:14:39 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Chgogal
DeSantis will lose as well unless the “cheating” that took place in 2020 is not corrected.

Did the Democrats take advantage in 2020? Of course they did. But they were motivated to vote. They hated Trump. Biden's ground game was superior (even if some of it was unethical).

The point is that we can't just blame it all on "fraud".

We have to go to each swing state like Arizona and Wisconsin and ban ballot harvesting. No mail in ballots. We have to do it now. If we contest it the day after the election, it's too late.

74 posted on 08/20/2023 3:18:12 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
Good in theory.

practically, first you need to win over the legislature and the governor if less than 2/3 of both state houses, which is going to require an election or two in some of them swing states.

If not part of the legislature or governor, what power do you have in going into a state and demanding they change their voting laws?

75 posted on 08/20/2023 3:28:46 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: going hot
practically, first you need to win over the legislature and the governor if less than 2/3 of both state houses, which is going to require an election or two in some of them swing states.

We have a supermajority in the legislature here in North Carolina and we just got rid a couple of activist justices on the Supreme Court. North Carolina is a swing state in which Trump won only by 10,000 votes in 2020.

76 posted on 08/20/2023 3:36:03 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
Biden received 5-10 million more votes than Obama and Hillary every received.
Obama received 69 million in 2008 and 67 million in 2012. Hillary received 66 million in 2016.

Trump received 63 million in 2016 and 74 million in 2020, the most ever by a sitting President.

Total voter turnout by year since 2000.

2000 — 105 million

2004 — 122 million

2008 — 131 million

2012 — 129 million

2016 — 137 million

2020 — 159 million

The 2020 electoral was stolen. Since nothing has changed it will be stolen again.

Obama received 65 million votes in 2012. Trump receives 74 million.

Obama won re-election with only 689 counties. Trump lost wining 2,497 (110 outstanding)

Obama won 18/19 bellwether counties. Trump won 18/19 bellwether counties.

77 posted on 08/20/2023 3:39:58 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Chgogal
The 2020 electoral was stolen. Since nothing has changed it will be stolen again.

Then do something about it for 2024.

What I see that Trump is complaining.

Which is fair because he is under attack from the Deep State under orders from the Biden Administration.

But how are we establishing the playing field for 2024?

78 posted on 08/20/2023 3:42:13 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: SoConPubbie

Former President Donald Trump posted his biggest lead yet over his rivals at 62 percent of likely Republican primary voters, according to a CBS News/YouGov poll published Sunday

Poll: Trump Posts Biggest Lead Yet over DeSantis, Other 2024 Rivals:Breitbart ^ | 20 Aug 2023 | KRISTINA WONG
Posted on 8/20/2023, 11:13:08 AM by SoConPubbie

Former President Donald Trump posted his biggest lead yet over his rivals at 62 percent of likely Republican primary voters, according to a CBS News/YouGov poll published Sunday.
His top rival, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, has fallen farther back from earlier this summer, the poll showed, to 16 percent. The other candidates are in the single digits, with third runner up Vivek Ramaswamy at seven percent.

Likely GOP voters also overwhelmingly said at 91 percent that during the upcoming GOP primary debate, they wanted to hear the other candidates make the case for themselves, instead of against Trump.

The poll came before Trump decided to skip the debate in favor of an interview with Tucker Carlson.The poll was conducted August 16-18, among 2,061 adult residents, with a ±3.0 point margin of error overall, and ±5.7 points for likely Republican primary voters.

A whopping 77 percent Republican primary voters believe that the indictments in Georgia are politically motivated, and think that while Trump tried to stay in office, it was legal and constitutional and that Joe Biden did not win legitimately.

The poll showed that 73 percent of Trump voters said his legal fights are a reason for their support for him, among others.

Trump overwhelmingly beat the other primary candidates among likely GOP primary voters who say honesty is very important, with 61 percent choosing Trump as who is the most “honest and trustworthy.”

Trump voters see Trump as more honest than friends and family, conservative media figures, and even religious leaders, the poll said.

A CBS News article summarizing the poll said among those considering Trump, he “‘checks the boxes’ across all the ways voters generally make choices.” It added:

His track record shows that those considering him almost all think things were better in the country under his presidency.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/08/20/poll-trump-posts-biggest-lead-yet-over-desantis-other-2024-rivals/


79 posted on 08/20/2023 3:45:23 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Asylum Seekers go to empty college dorms/class rooms in NY/NJ/Mass/West Point & NE blue citiesl)
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To: Grampa Dave

Yes, I am guilty.

I posted those articles!


80 posted on 08/20/2023 4:00:56 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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