Posted on 08/09/2023 6:27:45 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
In other news, Joe Biden has recognized his 4 yr old grand daughter in Arkansas because 4 is the age that Planned Parenthood recognizes as the age of viability.
Great post.
Moreno is the best choice, and President Trump will be on the ballot. Brown will go down.
Abortion is now back in the hands of the states, and the states are making their choices.
If your analysis were correct, JD Vance would not have won his senate seat.
On the whole, Ohio has for two decades drifted more and more out of the Democrat party orbit.
Abortion is a unique rallying cry for the Left. It is ominous but Republicans and Conservatives in Ohio should not give up.
They can win as the Vance victory showed along with 2016 and 2020 victories by Trump.
When I checked the money which went into Prop 1 I was surprised to see that for once the good guys were not heavily outspent. So in that sense I concede that they didn’t take this election TOO lightly though I’m left to wonder what the supporters of Prop 1 spent that money ON.
Democrat money always goes towards effective propaganda and highly effective GOTV schemes (fraud not excepted — that costs them money too, presumably).
I live near Ohio but don’t watch Ohio TV, listen to Ohio radio, and my phone doesn’t have an Ohio IP address, all of which means I wasn’t inundated with liberal propaganda regarding Prop 1.
But *somebody* sure was, and it would interesting to know what, if anything, was done by Prop 1 supporters & organizers to counteract that and also what was done to get the good people of Ohio to show up at the polls (or vote in whatever way) in order to counteract the votes of the bad people.
The answer, I suspect, is “very little” and in any event the answer definitely was “not nearly enough”.
Now let’s get ready for 2024, because things will totally be different then!
Lawyer Robert Barnes made a good argument why the 60% threshhold was anti-democratic and anti-populist and put the power in the hands of the (unreliable) OH state leg.
I haven’t been in OH for 7 years, so I don’t know.
Lawyer Robert Barnes made a good argument why the 60% threshhold was anti-democratic and anti-populist and put the power in the hands of the (unreliable) OH state leg.
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The problem is that most of the amendments that happen have been proposed in recent times are very well funded and organized by OUT OF STATE interests.
Most of these are NOT organic in-State movements.
We can only hope that GOP women come back into the fold over the men in womens locker room and womens sports issues. In other words change the subject. It’s not as strong as the subject of abortion and republican women will offer to take off their pants off in front of a BJ or the Kenyan. They’ll have someone else ready.
Second, Trump won easily in Ohio twice. JD Vance won easily in 2022. So, there isn't any reason to believe this issue will result in Trump or whoever the GOP nominee for the Senate losing in 2024.
Third, the left and pro-abortion forces were more energized than the right and pro-lifers on this vote. That certainly doesn't mean they will be in November of next year with the Presidency control of the Senate on the line.
The most negative takeaway from this is that there is a good percentage of the voters in Ohio that support Trump and vote Republican that believe abortion should be legal beyond six weeks. That's a bit a shocker to me. But, it could be true.
Republicans have won every race for statewide office since 2010 in Ohio except the two Senate races involving Sherrod Brown, who was lucky enough twice to run in a year that favored Democrats. 2024 does not look like a year that will be favorable to Democrats.
As long as the Republicans nominate a quality nominee, he can and should be defeated.
You'd be surprised how many folks that would never think of voting for a Democrat, want no part of a total ban on abortion. Frankly a lot of them, would prefer people abort babies they can't afford, than for them to pay for them through welfare.
Nonsense. Trump won easily here twice and JD Vance won easily last year. There is no evidence of election fraud here.
But you make a good point. There are people I have been in online groups with that are Trump supporters and vote Republican that are in favor of legalized abortion.
I thought you might get a laugh out of this one.
A leftist organization promoting a rino. I often wonder who split-the-vote affects. Well, silly conservatives of course.
Suckers!!!
https://www.change.org/p/john-kasich-draft-john-kasich-for-president-2024
This should be a priority for Republicans.
I live in Ohio, run 2 local MAGA groups and posted about this election here and the MAGA groups.
Ohio population 11.7 mil, 3 mil voted, 57% No, 43%Yes
25% of the population voted.
2019-2021 Ohio voter affiliation stats:
8 mil registered voters
950k democrats
836k republicans
6 million UNAFFILIATED registered voters
This state is red, it is more populist than conservative based on the stats above. Republicans repeatedly fail by not addressing their stance on abortion. DeSantis doesn’t have a chance here.
According to Red Eagle Politics (YouTube) A swath of Republicans voted No. He compared votes from red districts in the past with this election.
Why we lost: Republicans focused on individual topics such as abortion, guns, farmers etc. There was no solidarity. Voters are lazy and didn’t understand what Issue 1 was about. Dems ran nonstop ads on streaming services. Republicans didn’t bother.
My opinion: the messaging should have been,
Do you want 50% approval to change the Constitution or 60%?
Example, should unlimited abortion be passed by 50% or 60%?
Should banning abortion be passed by 50% or 60%?
In other words, do you want either party to be able to change things with only 50% approval?
This link explains everything about issue1 including who supported it and who didn’t as well as the amount of money from outside sources. Both sides received the same amount 14-15 million.
After Trump is gone, Ohio will return to a swing state…..my prediction based on the stats.
The 50% mark is a limit at about 8-10 weeks.
We should take what we can get, show that Democrats as extremists for wanting no limit even months beyond viability, and then work from there.
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