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FREEDOM, DEMOKRASI AND CIVILISED HUMANITY - Mary Baker Eddy - Strong Clear Faith
freedom-demokrasi-and-civilised-humanity ^ | 16th July, 2023, American time | Ozguy1945

Posted on 07/16/2023 4:39:57 PM PDT by Ozguy1945

Mary Baker Eddy's religious clarity in English is beautiful:

"True prayer is not asking God for love; it is learning to love, and to include all mankind in one affection. Prayer is the utilization of the love wherewith He loves us."

"Reject hatred without hating."

Mary Baker Eddy's religious clarity in English is beautiful:

"True prayer is not asking God for love; it is learning to love, and to include all mankind in one affection. Prayer is the utilization of the love wherewith He loves us."

"Reject hatred without hating."

"Home is the dearest spot on earth, and it should be the centre, but not the boundary, of the affections."

God Bless Faith

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To: TBP

You’ve distorted their teaching.
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Not one iota.


61 posted on 07/16/2023 8:09:15 PM PDT by nagant (`)
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To: Jonty30

If God is not in every particle, then God is not omnipresent, as there is somewhere where God is not, and that contradicts the nature of an infinite being (which is also why infinity+1 is nonsensical and cannot exist.)

Unlimited is unlimited. You can not be limited unlimited. Yes, unlimited is in the literal sense. There is no other sense in which it can be understood.


62 posted on 07/16/2023 8:13:55 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Jonty30
If inanimate material contains God’s presence, then it must be worshipped.

Not necessarily. Does God worship God? Either it's all God or nothing is God. Nothing can be separate from the Infinite.

Everything has a certain degree of livingness, as Thomas Troward put it, because all there is is God. Everything vibrates at a higher or lower frequency with the energy of God.

All of the ocean is in the drop of water, but the drop of water is not all of the ocean. All of the oak tree is in the acorn, but the acorn is not all of the oak tree.

63 posted on 07/16/2023 8:18:04 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP

Infinity +1 does exist as a mathematical concept. There are also infinities within infinities.

I’m not the claiming that God is omnipresent. I’m not the one claiming that God is unlimited. No matter how powerful God is and does, I can imagine +1. That’s all I need to do to prove that God is truly infinite or all-powerful or omnipresent.

He simply is Omnipotent enough. He is all-powerful enough. He is everything that you can imagine, enough. He just isn’t those qualities to their utmost end and literal meaning of the words.


64 posted on 07/16/2023 8:18:14 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: Jess Kitting

Yes


65 posted on 07/16/2023 8:18:29 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP

Infinity +1 does exist as a mathematical concept. There are also infinities within infinities.

I’m not the claiming that God is omnipresent. I’m not the one claiming that God is unlimited. No matter how powerful God is and does, I can imagine +1. That’s all I need to do to prove that God is not truly infinite or all-powerful or omnipresent.

He simply is Omnipotent enough. He is all-powerful enough. He is everything that you can imagine, enough. He just isn’t those qualities to their utmost end and literal meaning of the words.


66 posted on 07/16/2023 8:19:43 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: TBP

Rocks don’t live. Neither do rain drops.

All matter is subject to God’s domain, but that doesn’t mean that God is in them. That’s how we end up with pantheism and animism.


67 posted on 07/16/2023 8:20:41 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

Yogi Berra once said that “if the world were perfect, it wouldn’t be.” One reason for that, I think, is that there would be nothing left to reach for, nothing to strive for, and therefore no growth. You’d have stagnation. The perfection is in the imperfection.

As Browning wrote,

“Ah, but a man’s reach should exceed his grasp,
Else what’s a Heaven for?”

Each of us is here by Divine appointment, for a function. We have something we’re here to be, do, express that nobody else can be, do, express — and we’re perfect for it.

Would Jesus ask of us something we could not do? He says to us, “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect.”


68 posted on 07/16/2023 8:25:34 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: nagant

Actually, yes, you have.


69 posted on 07/16/2023 8:26:06 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Jonty30

As a mathematical concept, imaginary numbers also exist, such as the square root of -4 (which is imaginary 2.) But you can tell by their very name that they do not exist in the real world.

The same with infinity plus. It’s a self contradicting term. You cannot add to what is limitless and boundless. You cannot add to All and Everything. Since it covers limitless, boundless, all that is, by definition there cannot be more than that, no matter what mathematicians claim.

GIATI — God is all there is. Or to quote the “Madeline” books, “That’s all there is; there isn’t any more.”


70 posted on 07/16/2023 8:31:42 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Jonty30

They’re energy. Compressed energy, but energy. They vibrate with a low level of livingness, but the One Life is expressing in, as, and through all. They are not alive in the sense that we generally understand the term, but there is Life in them.


71 posted on 07/16/2023 8:33:38 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP

Energy itself is not living.

The traditional Christian teaching is that God is made the universe, but is not of the universe.


72 posted on 07/16/2023 8:45:57 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: ducttape45

True words. She does not teach the truth about Jesus


73 posted on 07/16/2023 8:49:01 PM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: ducttape45; metmom

yep


74 posted on 07/16/2023 8:52:49 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Jess Kitting

Psalm 139:7-8 Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence?

If I ascend to heaven, you are there! If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there!

I have sometimes wondered if the burning in hell is what an unredeemed person would feel being in a sinful state in the presence of a holy and pure God.


75 posted on 07/16/2023 10:11:20 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: TBP; nagant

Surely you can do better than that to refuts someone’s post.

Telling someone *You’re wrong* and then dropping the issue is no good. Nobody is going to simply take your word for it unless you can show how or why someone is wrong.

Plus we need to know what *right* is. There are lots of ways of being wrong and it’s pretty much useless to tell someone they are wrong if you don’t tell them what right is.


76 posted on 07/16/2023 10:15:04 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Jess Kitting
Jonty30:I think she might be defined as a pagan, because she believed that God permeated Himself in everything, removing the distinction between God and the material world.

Jess Kitting: Isn't that "omnipresence"?

No, that is "Pantheistic," not Christian in any way at all.

The Triune God, with the manifestation of Jesus as God Incarnate, with the material world, the cosmos, a dimension created by the Preexisting Godhead and always separated from Him, is the prime feature of Judeo+Christ(ian) distinctives.

77 posted on 07/16/2023 10:42:10 PM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live. To live is to teach another. Fiat Lux!)
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To: metmom
Thanks for sharing. Great verses from scripture.

I have sometimes wondered if the burning in hell is what an unredeemed person would feel being in a sinful state in the presence of a holy and pure God.

Some say hell is a state of mind rather than an actual place. If we are sinful and unredeemed, we would not want to be in God's presence. That makes sense.

We cannot hide from God, but can we be in a place where He is not?

An all-powerful God could certainly create a place where He is not. Is there such a place, or is it only a figment of our imaginations?

78 posted on 07/17/2023 2:25:10 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Jess Kitting; metmom

“I have sometimes wondered if the burning in hell is what an unredeemed person would feel being in a sinful state in the presence of a holy and pure God.”

There is a book out there (ten years old?) where the Christian writer posits this idea. I have no idea if it is correct, but he does write about the omnipresence of God and the pain/death that would be caused if Moses even looked at Him.


79 posted on 07/17/2023 2:42:54 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Ozguy1945

Mary Baker Eddy started a cult.

Not interested.


80 posted on 07/17/2023 2:56:53 AM PDT by sauropod (Sun Tzu: “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting”)
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