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Young Men in Ukraine Hide in Fear of Being Sent to Die: “My Friends Were Trained for 5 Days and Sent to Donetsk”
Gateway Pundit ^ | Jul. 16, 2023 | Richard Abelson

Posted on 07/16/2023 9:18:47 AM PDT by Kazan

Gateway Pundit reported that Russia claims Ukraine has suffered 26.000 casualities in one month of its failed “counter-offensive.” Now, even war hawk Foreign Policy magazine concedes that young men in Ukraine are being pressed into military service with no training and sent into the ”meat grinder“ in Donetsk.,/b>

“On July 5, Ukrainian army generals issued a proclamation dramatically expanding the martial law prohibiting Ukrainian civilian men’s freedom of movement, calling on all those “liable for military service” to remain in their home districts“, writes Amherst professor Charli Carpenter on Foreign Policy, the magazine of the saber-rattling Council on Foreign Relations, where Joe Biden famously boasted about blackmailing Ukraine with $1 billion to get the prosecutor inverstigating Hunter Biden’s company Burisma fired.

“With the Twitter hashtag #UkraineLetMenOut, citizens had already been complaining bitterly about men being unable to leave the country with their families since Russia’s invasion,” Carpenter writes. “After the new proclamation came down, one Ukrainian tweeted, “Now we can’t even leave our cities without permission from military recruitment centers.” Another tweeted, “Animals have more rights in Ukraine than men.”“

Carpenter quotes a young man hiding out in Lviv, Ukraine, he calls Andrij, who was separated from his mother, sister, and fiancée when they fled to London, while Andrij was forced to stay behind.

“My fiancée and sick mother need me abroad so that I can work and help them. Now I can’t even help myself, I am left alone with strangers [and] without a home and cannot leave the country,” he quotes Andrij. “My friends and I have no experience and we do not want to hold weapons and cannot physically fight. I live in fear they will send me to war without proper training. My friends were trained for five days and sent to Donetsk. I’m worried about the men in this country, many others are worse off than me.

Ukraine has lost about 20% of military equipment and weapons since it started its counteroffensive, the New York Times reported on Saturday.

An Invasion of Crimea would cost Kiev upwards of 200.000 lives, according to Aleksey Arestovich, a former adviser to Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky.

The Russian Ministry of Defense claimed they had repelled 17 Ukrainian attacks July 15, at a cost of 385 Ukrainian caasualties, four armored fighting vehicles, six pickup trucks, and two towed howitzers, SouthFront reports.

According to Russian MoD claims, the Ukraine has lost 10,711 tanks and other armored fighting vehicles, 1,138 fighting vehicles equipped with multiple-launch rocket systems MLRS, 5,462 field artillery cannons and mortars, 11,678 motor vehicles, 455 airplanes, 242 helicopters, 5,015 UAVs and 426 air defense missile systems in the war so far.

According to Dutch open-source trackers Oryx, Russia has lost 10,904 pieces of military equipment since the beginning of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, of which 7,251 were destroyed, 414 damaged, 407 abandoned, and 2,832 captured. In total, Russia has lost 2,082 tanks – or an average of 130 per month, Oryx claims.

NBC showed a Ukrainian soldier driving a $500.000 MRAP vehicle who said he had received no training on the vehicle, but instead “used Google”.

Presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. criticized Joe Biden’s decision to call up 3,000 reservists to augment U.S. troops in Europe: “I want people to understand what this troop mobilization is about. It’s about preparing for a ground war with Russia.”

President Biden just called up 3,000 reservists to augment U.S. troops in Europe as part of "Operation Atlantic Resolve." I want people to understand what this troop mobilization is about. It's about preparing for a ground war with Russia.https://t.co/YCzL0UWoo0

— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) July 14, 2023

Biden has lost his way. He is out of touch with the real needs and priorities of the American people. Do you care more about global military dominance, or would you like to rebuild our prosperity from the inside out? #Kennedy24

— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) July 14, 2023


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To: tlozo
--- "False comparison. Nice non-answer. Soviets lost in Afghanistan."

That's a softball a kid could hit. After about twenty years of the war Obama said could be won, we "cut and run" in a most spectacular manner courtesy of the Resident of the White (Powder) House. Soviets lost to goat herders. We lost to goat herders. Yup.

61 posted on 07/16/2023 10:42:08 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Brian Griffin
Bernays' is an excellent read. Available online in PDF format. Almost a century old, it remains an interesting read. His idealism suggests intelligent men can "bring order out of chaos." Given the inverse is also true, is is a bit one-sided with that optimism. Today, we might call it marketing. Done by social influencers. And YouTube "content creators." And sometimes order is meant to become chaos in the hands of some.

Source: https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Bernays_Propaganda_in_english_.pdf

62 posted on 07/16/2023 10:49:53 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Brian Griffin

Yet they didn’t use this “know how”. Easier to goad Biden, neocons and NATO to use theirs. Pipe dream.


63 posted on 07/16/2023 10:56:00 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: EEGator

“The desire for change starts and lives in the hearts of frustrated people....Belonging to a mass movement substitutes for deficiencies in the individual.”

https://www.amazon.com/True-Believer-Thoughts-Movements-Perennial/dp/0060505915

“Adolescents, unemployed, veterans, and new immigrants are unreliable supporters of mass movements; their frustrations abate once circumstances improve.”

“Permanent Misfits...are likely to become the most violent true believers.”

“Sinners...are willing to go to extremes.”

“Mass movements aim to infect people with a malady, then offer a cure.”

“group membership confers the right on them to be harsh upon others, and by which to be rid of personal responsibility.”

“The true believer in any mass movement shares many key characteristics. One is that he or she is discontented and blames the world for his or her problems.”

“The ‘new poor’ are a key group, those that have a memory of better times, of more affluence and often more power but through circumstances have been deprived of them.”

“Hoffer makes it unequivocally clear that what motivates the True Believer into fanaticism is his or her own lack. They are as he says the disaffected, the poor, the unemployed, the misfits, outcasts, minorities, adolescent youth, the ambitious, the obsessed, the impotent in mind or body, the inordinately selfish, the bored and sinners.”

“They are called the frustrated. Those who can not find their place in this world and hence they hate it. Who, by the way, as said before, are not the poorest of the poorest. The latter are more occupied looking what to eat and where to find shelter. As Hoffer says, they lead purposeful lives. It is rather those who have a glance at success, happiness and balance, but don’t know how to achieve them and so hate the ones who manage to do so.”

“The true believer is the empty individual...the rest of us fill our lives with knowledge, pleasures, personal aspirations, and we somehow surmount the obstacles according to our resources and capabilities. We believe, do, belong, but we also reflect, question, doubt, and refuse to give our lives to crazed tyrants.”

“However much the protesting man of words sees himself as the champion of the downtrodden and injured, the grievance which animates him is, with very few exceptions, private and personal.”


64 posted on 07/16/2023 10:57:06 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: Brian Griffin

If the South Vietnamese fought as hard as We did for them...
It would have had a different outcome.


65 posted on 07/16/2023 11:03:12 AM PDT by Right Brigade (It was better beforhe they voted for whats his name,this must be the New World)
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To: Right Brigade

Ditto for the Afghanis.


66 posted on 07/16/2023 11:03:28 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kazan

“So, you think a nation that is the heart of neo-Nazism and one that has committed numerous war crimes during this war having nuclear weapons is swell idea?”

I favor an armistice to stop the killing and plebiscites to put democracy to work.

Other possibilities exist, however.


67 posted on 07/16/2023 11:05:04 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: nuconvert

War is good for business until it isn’t. This could get bad really fast. The whole Neo-Con effort is based on two assumptions: 1) Russia will not go Nuke and stay conventional. and 2) China will stay neural and not openly support Russia.
If those assumptions change they can only hope for a UN sponsored peace treaty. We can not fight China at this time—we are too dependent upon them. What if they send a Million Man army to fight in Ukraine in support of Putin? What happens if Russia uses a small Nuke to blow up the Kiev airport? Do we attack Russia and end the world? What if the Ukraine blows up a Nuke Plant in Russia? So many things can (and will) happen.


68 posted on 07/16/2023 11:11:54 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: dfwgator

Mr. Mayor:

I am the Taliban commander.

I have enough troops to take your city by force.

Please spare everybody the time and bloodshed this would entail by surrendering control forthwith.


69 posted on 07/16/2023 11:14:31 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: Brian Griffin

Zelensky’s government doesn’t come close to resembling a democracy nor does Ukraine come close to resembling a free nation.


70 posted on 07/16/2023 11:16:13 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Thrownatbirth

“I always thought Clinton’s de-nuking Ukraine was going to end in catastrophe.”

Imagine that North Dakota declared it was going to be ruled from Bismark instead of DC.

Imagine the North Dakota National Guard marching up to a US Air Force nuclear missile site and demanding that control over the missiles be handed over.

The missiles would be launched into space rather be turned over.


71 posted on 07/16/2023 11:22:09 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: Kazan

“Zelensky’s government doesn’t come close to resembling a democracy nor does Ukraine come close to resembling a free nation.”

How did you become President, Joe?

I offered voter bribes to millions of college graduates, parents and old folks, and some people recounted votes and mailed in fraudulent ballots to ensure I beat Trump.


72 posted on 07/16/2023 11:27:29 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: Kazan

“nor does Ukraine come close to resembling a free nation”

From American history:

“The first signs of trouble came in 1942, when Avery insisted that he would not accede to a deal with the union representing workers at Montgomery Ward’s central Chicago warehouse (devised by the National War Labor Board, or NWLB, a federal agency for mediating labor disputes) unless personally ordered to comply by the president. When Roosevelt did so, Avery yielded, albeit under protest. One year later, however, labor negotiations faltered again. This time, Avery refused to renew the contract, obey NWLB orders or recognize the Chicago warehouse union.

“Under Section 7 the War Labor Disputes Act of 1943 (the Smith-Connally Act), the NWLB had jurisdiction only over disputes that might ‘lead to substantial interference with the war effort.’ Montgomery Ward’s lawyers took the position that its primary areas of business were not related to the war effort and, as such, the NWLB lacked jurisdiction over it.”

“President Franklin Roosevelt ordered his secretary of commerce to seize Montgomery Ward’s Chicago-based corporate headquarters. Two days later, soldiers carried the company’s scowling CEO from the building, sparking political outcry.”

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/remembering-montgomery-ward-seizure-fdr-and-war-production-powers


73 posted on 07/16/2023 11:36:07 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: LeonardFMason

one ex communist

is a better patriot than

all of the dems


74 posted on 07/16/2023 11:37:28 AM PDT by Firehath
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To: Kazan

War is hell.
This one needs to be over.For a number of reasons.


75 posted on 07/16/2023 12:08:38 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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To: Reverend Wright

Just say, Jews, stop playing coy.


76 posted on 07/16/2023 12:43:51 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! )
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To: EEGator

OPENLY PRASING NAZI’S ON FR NOW?!!!


77 posted on 07/16/2023 12:45:59 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! )
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To: cowboyusa

If you can explain how I was praising him, I’d love to hear it.
The “praise”, if you call it that, was for the correctness and analysis of Bernays.
Bernays was a Jew.
Take off your perpetually offended anti Semitic glasses.


78 posted on 07/16/2023 12:49:30 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Nothing Gobbles thought and said was correct. President Trump was the most pro- Israel President,and he will be again in his second term. His biggest funder is and will continue to be Sheldon Adelson. He does not seem like the right candidate for you.


79 posted on 07/16/2023 12:55:10 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! )
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To: cowboyusa

You are blind. Goebbels was stating that Bernays was correct.
Meaning, a Nazi gave a Jew credit for his correct analysis.
You lose your ability to think when you see something you don’t like.


80 posted on 07/16/2023 12:57:01 PM PDT by EEGator
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