Posted on 07/15/2023 10:16:20 AM PDT by Ozguy1945
This post compares the attitudes of Rembrandt and Jesse Ventura, both born on July 15, to suicide.
In 1664, Rembrandt showed genuine compassion in his portrayal of the suicide of the raped ancient Roman noblewoman, Lucretia. Her left hand is raised as if to say no to the attack on her person. Her other hand holding a knife ready to destroy herself. Her sweet, beautiful face is both purposeful and powerless in its sad tilt towards the blade.
In modern times, in openly discussing the taboo issue of suicide, Ventura has shown a good combination of tough honesty and human understanding:
"I'm not disparaging suicides when I call them weak, I'm pointing out that anybody who would consider doing a thing like that needs help. I don't think a normal, mentally healthy person commits suicide ....... it's a tragedy that does unbelievable damage to the family and friends the suicide leaves behind. You don't want to encourage people to do such a thing."
When people are dying, silence is a sin.
(Excerpt) Read more at freedom-demokrasi-and-civilised-humanity.com ...
Ventura’s attitude is go ahead as I remember.
Anyone who tweets it can be prosecuted if followed upon.
It may have been Robert Ringer on looking out for #1. One paragraph saying it was
an absolute right. I could be wrong on the author. The only one paragraph in the
whole book on the subject suggests uncomfortability.
Lewis Owens-Steinbeck scholar. Saw him on CSPAN in 2002. 2 hours escorting
Brian Lamb throughout the Steinbeck Center in Salinas. American Indian grew
up poor. His big moment on national television. A month later he shoots himself
and left behind a wife and 2 daughters. His best-friend columnist wrote
in his eulogy afterwards that he would never forgive him for what he did.
I don’t know where Ozguy is going with this but I’m more in tune with Ventura on this. Silence a sin? Ventura today would not be allowed to say this. The sin is making someone else clean up the mess afterwards.
I get it! The rapist, once and irrevocably, robbed her of free will. But, instead of suicide, she should have lured that turd back and gutted him!
I heard something yesterday that was interesting to ponder. Many prophetic have been at the suicide-Jesus junction. Many were so low they pondered suicide seriously. Then, their spirit accepted Jesus and they chose life! Their new life being born again changed them and thousands of others. Choose life!
A long read on Lewis Owens-hits the spot:
https://www.sfgate.com/living/article/SUICIDE-The-Aftermath-Author-had-overcome-2787608.php
“Choose life!”
Ironically, perhaps, these two wordswere used very differenty in the Brit movie Trainspotters.
i never really liked that film all that much.
“I get it! The rapist, once and irrevocably, robbed her of free will. But, instead of suicide, she should have lured that turd back and gutted him!”
I think that was what she was trying to get Herod to do.
It is possible the guy helped drive her to even worse despair by dismissing her story instead of standing up for his woman.
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