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Eve Theory of Consciousness (v2)
Substack ^ | May 10, 2024 | Andrew

Posted on 07/06/2023 8:54:09 AM PDT by frithguild

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To: Glad2bnuts

“Recursion allows us to imagine a future and then work towards it.”


21 posted on 07/06/2023 10:16:54 AM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: frithguild

“Maybe.”

Not maybe. Definitely. We can’t even experience or directly observe the consciousness of another human being, much less that of an animal.

“however, do we have any evidence whatever that any animal counts to 100 or can conceptualize what 1,000 is?”

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

“I think we can agree that this kind of thought is unique to humans.”

It might be, but that’s just an unproveable assumption, and unproveable assumptions are not the best things to go basing even more elaborate hypotheses on.

Science would be better off, in my opinion, sticking to its more reliable principles, like the idea that it is outside the province of science to try to deal with the unobservable and the unmeasurable. And since consciousness is currently in that category, then it is outside the bounds of science to speak about until something changes.


22 posted on 07/06/2023 10:17:59 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: frithguild
The author said:

Presumably, she spent time as a reflective agent while Adam lived in Edenic ignorance. In this post,

Presumably means to presume, that is make a presumption.

Can YOU read?

23 posted on 07/06/2023 10:43:05 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Boogieman
My dog can count,If I show him four treats,hide one behind my back,give him three,I guarantee he knows one is missing.
24 posted on 07/06/2023 12:12:34 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: Craftmore

I suppose the response from those believing dogs can’t do recursion would be that your dog has to be able to count more than his toes and fingers (or perhaps they are all toes) for it to qualify as a higher consciousness.


25 posted on 07/06/2023 12:14:31 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yes. I was discussing the article in its entirety, not the Snip I posted here. Seems like you just want to make ripostes about the Snip.


26 posted on 07/06/2023 3:12:47 PM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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