Posted on 07/06/2023 8:54:09 AM PDT by frithguild
To my knowledge, no one has argued that women evolved recursion before men. This seems like low-hanging fruit, given it’s the oldest story in the book. Indigenous cultures worldwide have myths of a primordial matriarchy where women reigned; which is about the political divide one would expect if recursion were initially gendered. Closer to home, Eve first tasted the fruit and became as the gods, knowing good and evil. Presumably, she spent time as a reflective agent while Adam lived in Edenic ignorance. In this post, I’ll put forth a more detailed model about why I think women evolved recursion before men, and when it happened.
(Excerpt) Read more at vectorsofmind.com ...
“Recursion allows us to imagine a future and then work towards it.”
“Maybe.”
Not maybe. Definitely. We can’t even experience or directly observe the consciousness of another human being, much less that of an animal.
“however, do we have any evidence whatever that any animal counts to 100 or can conceptualize what 1,000 is?”
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
“I think we can agree that this kind of thought is unique to humans.”
It might be, but that’s just an unproveable assumption, and unproveable assumptions are not the best things to go basing even more elaborate hypotheses on.
Science would be better off, in my opinion, sticking to its more reliable principles, like the idea that it is outside the province of science to try to deal with the unobservable and the unmeasurable. And since consciousness is currently in that category, then it is outside the bounds of science to speak about until something changes.
Presumably, she spent time as a reflective agent while Adam lived in Edenic ignorance. In this post,
Presumably means to presume, that is make a presumption.
Can YOU read?
I suppose the response from those believing dogs can’t do recursion would be that your dog has to be able to count more than his toes and fingers (or perhaps they are all toes) for it to qualify as a higher consciousness.
Yes. I was discussing the article in its entirety, not the Snip I posted here. Seems like you just want to make ripostes about the Snip.
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